Delatestryl

Man.... about time i just got a script for test and thyroid meds ....lol .
Dunno yet what there sending me but its coming from Ontario.
I feel dum i dunno anything about pharma lol only ugl. I only got 130mg a week out of her , is pharma stronger 🤣🤣🤣 fak i hope so. Ill have to top up lol if its weaker.
 
If I read that report correctly, it says the shortage has been resolved. So it should be hitting shelves soon.
its just shipping so probably they shipped out on the 30th of sept to suppliers, so depending on which pharmacy you deal with their vendors will get it in a week or 2. Its a quebec supplier. So we shall see.
Ill try calling my stupid costco on the 19th. I rather call then go in because its 30 min away one way because I moved but if that same idiot lady answers ill just have to dum it down to her to read the notes. on hold and substitued 1 vial refill is not the same as filling a whole 150 days. SMH
 
its just shipping so probably they shipped out on the 30th of sept to suppliers, so depending on which pharmacy you deal with their vendors will get it in a week or 2. Its a quebec supplier. So we shall see.
Ill try calling my stupid costco on the 19th. I rather call then go in because its 30 min away one way because I moved but if that same idiot lady answers ill just have to dum it down to her to read the notes. on hold and substitued 1 vial refill is not the same as filling a whole 150 days. SMH
Maybe some can sub with a lab for now? Seems to me that this shortage is going up and down and its been A WHILE since stability.

I have 10 vials of dela and a depo but only because I sub out with TH400 so I've been able to stockpile.
 
well i am done with this pharmacy. They wiped my script and got 1 refill of depo. So my last refill is usually 20ml of Dela for 150 days. .9ml a week.
Now I got 2 Depo which is half and now my refill suddenly disappeared. I am going to just go see my fam doctor in the new year for a script as my specialist discharged their file to them. I was suppose to use up my dela then go see them which would put me into jan 2021 but ill just use my UG test and hold onto the depo and my dela stockpile until the new year. Get a clean panel of bloodwork and new script from my family doc. Also don't use costco as a pharmacy. They suck in ontario!. smh
 
Try ventroglutes, no nerves, easy to pin.
That's the only spot I inject.... never once had a problem... and the area you can inject in the VG is large enough you can move around an few inches, so not building scar tissue all in one spot
 
well i am done with this pharmacy. They wiped my script and got 1 refill of depo. So my last refill is usually 20ml of Dela for 150 days. .9ml a week.
Now I got 2 Depo which is half and now my refill suddenly disappeared. I am going to just go see my fam doctor in the new year for a script as my specialist discharged their file to them. I was suppose to use up my dela then go see them which would put me into jan 2021 but ill just use my UG test and hold onto the depo and my dela stockpile until the new year. Get a clean panel of bloodwork and new script from my family doc. Also don't use costco as a pharmacy. They suck in ontario!. smh
File a complaint with your provincial College of Pharmacists?

Good riddance? Mistakes at the pharmacy can be harmful or deadly, if this is how dumb they are at this location you might be better of without them.

I've really noticed that the quality and competence of pharmacy staff has gone to shit over the last 10 years or so. Some of this people are just not intelligent enough to be doing that job plain and simple. I'm on my 3rd pharmacy in 3 years now each of the previous 2 made some serious mistakes or displayed some grievous incompetence 3 times each before I cut them loose. Wrong meds, wrong dose, wrong advice, very poor product knowledge, pestering my GP's unnecessarily, power tripping by refusing to sell certain products without an explanation that satisfies them etc before I cut them loose, these 3rd guys are already on strike 2.


 
File a complaint with your provincial College of Pharmacists?

Good riddance? Mistakes at the pharmacy can be harmful or deadly, if this is how dumb they are at this location you might be better of without them.

I've really noticed that the quality and competence of pharmacy staff has gone to shit over the last 10 years or so. Some of this people are just not intelligent enough to be doing that job plain and simple. I'm on my 3rd pharmacy in 3 years now each of the previous 2 made some serious mistakes or displayed some grievous incompetence 3 times each before I cut them loose. Wrong meds, wrong dose, wrong advice, very poor product knowledge, pestering my GP's unnecessarily, power tripping by refusing to sell certain products without an explanation that satisfies them etc before I cut them loose, these 3rd guys are already on strike 2.


Going to get worse. I saw a show on the internet about how pharmacies are going to get versions of the machines they use in hospitals to count/hand out medication. No person, just a machine click click clicking meds into a bottle before it spits it out. I don't know how far they'll actually go but the machines are up to the length of a pickup truck that I saw.

Customer service? Machines never make mistakes, right?
 
The supply of dela and depo is not resolved. Pharmacies are receiving stock, but it is inadequate to supply current demand. My pharmacist is very good and showed me the issue on his system. As soon as they can get one in it's mine, but what about next month? I too usually get a 3 month supply at a time. I'm going that way with all my meds.
 
The supply of dela and depo is not resolved. Pharmacies are receiving stock, but it is inadequate to supply current demand. My pharmacist is very good and showed me the issue on his system. As soon as they can get one in it's mine, but what about next month? I too usually get a 3 month supply at a time. I'm going that way with all my meds.
Look, let's be honest. TRT need is no joke. If you're older than 40 and NOT getting tested, you could be causing yourself permanent and everlasting damage. The loss of testosterone in any age of male is devastating but you don't hear enough about that.

Instead, what you hear is the people abusing testosterone. You hear about TRT being an "optional social drug that some guys take to keep father time at bay". The messaging is all wrong about that. Men, melt without testosterone. I can personally attest to being in the forty percent over forty who dropped levels hard and fast. The fatigue and lack of feeling of being alive was horrible. There was no ha ha joke, "trying to keep up with the young guys" to it for me and I know its the same for a lot of guys.

There needs to be a message change. I know they can't promise more life and they have to inform people of the sides to it but seriously, I'd rather live twenty good years than thirty shity even if the TRT does cause me a serious side that lessens my life. At least I'll know I had x number of years where my mind was clear. Not only that but men need to be educated that it's OKAY to be on TRT. You're not cheating. You're not Lance Armstrong.

With that said, there should never be what's turning out to be over 1/4 or more of a year where people have reduced or no access to their freeking TRT. I can't speak from a clinical basis like Bagua but TRT doesn't strike me as a "ho shit, we just had a 1/3rd jump in demand this quarter but it'll go down next so we can't really ramp things up." I believe you're on it basically for the rest of your life so they need to keep ramping up production.(again not a clinical standpoint but I can sure say I won't be going off it...ever, unless they prove it's literally death in a needle)
 
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Look, let's be honest. TRT need is no joke. If you're older than 40 and NOT getting tested, you could be causing yourself permanent and everlasting damage. The loss of testosterone in any age of male is devastating but you don't hear enough about that.

Instead, what you hear is the people abusing testosterone. You hear about TRT being an "optional social drug that some guys take to keep father time at bay". The messaging is all wrong about that. Men, melt without testosterone. I can personally attest to being in the forty percent over forty who dropped levels hard and fast. The fatigue and lack of feeling of being alive was horrible. There was no ha ha joke, "trying to keep up with the young guys" to it for me and I know its the same for a lot of guys.

There needs to be a message change. I know they can't promise more life and they have to inform people of the sides to it but seriously, I'd rather live twenty good years than thirty shity even if the TRT does cause me a serious side that lessens my life. At least I'll know I had x number of years where my mind was clear. Not only that but men need to be educated that it's OKAY to be on TRT. You're not cheating. You're not Lance Armstrong.

With that said, there should never be what's turning out to be over 1/4 or more of a year where people have reduced or no access to their freeking TRT. I can't speak from a clinical basis like Bagua but TRT doesn't strike me as a "ho shit, we just had a 1/3rd jump in demand this quarter but it'll go down next so we can't really ramp things up." I believe you're on it basically for the rest of your life so they need to keep ramping up production.(again not a clinical standpoint but I can sure say I won't be going off it...ever, unless they prove it's literally death in a needle)
Mortality rates for men with elevated testosterone is far lower than for men with low testosterone. With low test you also have low estrogen.
 
Mortality rates for men with elevated testosterone is far lower than for men with low testosterone. With low test you also have low estrogen.
That's really great to know. Thanks.

See, they don't tell that to men. You don't have doctors telling their patients "Hey, you're over forty now and forty percent of men start producing lesser and lesser testosterone at forty for no good reason at all. Let's get you tested and maybe every other year to make sure that you're not getting screwed by low T."

Instead what you get are doctors that look down their noses at you like you're Ben Johnson and just got caught cheating at the Olympics. Delastyl is a controlled substance but they treat it like it's high grade cocaine that you're asking them for just so you get back to feeling normal with your body producing a bit of T but needing to supplement it with TRT.

I told a friend I was on TRT and his eyes went wide. He almost hushed his voice while he looked around the room for medical spies while asking about it as we ate at Five Guys Fries(ohh man, if you have one near you, go there!). It was like he was asking questions about some sort of taboo and dark secret. Me discussing "The Land of the Testosterone Replacement Therapy" that's guarded by a greasy looking guy holding a filthy gigantic syringe.

It's like male enhancement medication when your shit stops working right. Asking that question of your doctor is like admitting you're some sort of failure at sex in life. The big dark secret filled with embarrassment.
 
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That's really great to know. Thanks.

See, they don't tell that to men. You don't have doctors telling their patients "Hey, you're over forty now and forty percent of men start producing lesser and lesser testosterone at forty for no good reason at all. Let's get you tested and maybe every other year to make sure that you're not getting screwed by low T."

Instead what you get are doctors that look down their noses at you like you're Ben Johnson and just got caught cheating at the Olympics. Delastyl is a controlled substance but they treat it like it's high grade cocaine that you're asking them for just so you get back to feeling normal with your body producing a bit of T but needing to supplement it with TRT.

I told a friend I was on TRT and his eyes went wide. He almost hushed his voice while he looked around the room for medical spies while asking about it as we ate at Five Guys Fries(ohh man, if you have one near you, go there!). It was like he was asking questions about some sort of taboo and dark secret. Me discussing "The Land of the Testosterone Replacement Therapy" that's guarded by a greasy looking guy holding a filthy gigantic syringe.

It's like male enhancement medication when your shit stops working right. Asking that question of your doctor is like admitting your some sort of failure at sex in life. The big dark secret filled with embarrassment.


To quote ..low estradiol and low testosterone predicted death independently of each other, and subjects with low levels of both testosterone and estradiol showed the highest risk of mortality in the present study. These results suggest that both hormones contribute additively to risk of death and that both low testosterone and low estradiol may serve as markers of mortality risk in elderly men.
 
Look, let's be honest. TRT need is no joke. If you're older than 40 and NOT getting tested, you could be causing yourself permanent and everlasting damage. The loss of testosterone in any age of male is devastating but you don't hear enough about that.

Instead, what you hear is the people abusing testosterone. You hear about TRT being an "optional social drug that some guys take to keep father time at bay". The messaging is all wrong about that. Men, melt without testosterone. I can personally attest to being in the forty percent over forty who dropped levels hard and fast. The fatigue and lack of feeling of being alive was horrible. There was no ha ha joke, "trying to keep up with the young guys" to it for me and I know its the same for a lot of guys.

There needs to be a message change. I know they can't promise more life and they have to inform people of the sides to it but seriously, I'd rather live twenty good years than thirty shity even if the TRT does cause me a serious side that lessens my life. At least I'll know I had x number of years where my mind was clear. Not only that but men need to be educated that it's OKAY to be on TRT. You're not cheating. You're not Lance Armstrong.

With that said, there should never be what's turning out to be over 1/4 or more of a year where people have reduced or no access to their freeking TRT. I can't speak from a clinical basis like Bagua but TRT doesn't strike me as a "ho shit, we just had a 1/3rd jump in demand this quarter but it'll go down next so we can't really ramp things up." I believe you're on it basically for the rest of your life so they need to keep ramping up production.(again not a clinical standpoint but I can sure say I won't be going off it...ever, unless they prove it's literally death in a needle)
At 43 I felt wrong. Then I started to self administer 200 mg of test and I went back to my old self.
I noticed my father changed in his 40’s also.
Personally I’d rather have quality of life than quantity.
Nice to see you on here.
 
At 43 I felt wrong. Then I started to self administer 200 mg of test and I went back to my old self.
I noticed my father changed in his 40’s also.
Personally I’d rather have quality of life than quantity.
Nice to see you on here.
Thank you very much. :) I was never restricted from most places, just the "Anything Goes". It's good to finally have a bit to add in some of these other forums.

Some guys have so so sooo much more knowledge on TRT. People don't realize it but these forums are gold mines for information on things doctors seem to be happier not discussing/helping with.

As you said, you felt wrong. I went past that and into serious fatigue, having a hard time keeping fat off despite working out pretty religiously. It was hard just to get up. Did my doctor even go to low testosterone as an automatic check versus "huh, we've checked everything else...I guess MAYBE we can look..." Nope. To me, it should have been one of the first things a doctor should at least test for. It's a simple blood test away that is covered by provincial health plans.

My father was a lazy POS who I have no idea about other than the fact he had EXTREME health problems. He was morbidly obese and in the couple of times I actually spoke to him, he seemed...weird not just in a weird person sense but off as in a mental acuity sense.

Bagua might be able to suggest if low T is on the list of hereditary things? My grandfather on the good side of the family was a force of nature. Army mentality his whole life so I don't know if he just soldiered on past feeling like crap or not. Unfortunately, there is a disconnect in the general discussion of the health of my generation and the previous ones(father and grandfathers). With my children, they know exactly what I'm passing down(Okay, maybe we didn't discuss the need for dick pills) so at least they can give some answers to questions to their doctors. It's good I can perhaps help out with some information, heredity wise.

Me, all I have is question marks so it sucks not being able to find a doctor that is proactive about things like TRT without making me feel like I'm messing with her chi.
 
Thank you very much. :) I was never restricted from most places, just the "Anything Goes". It's good to finally have a bit to add in some of these other forums.

Some guys have so so sooo much more knowledge on TRT. People don't realize it but these forums are gold mines for information on things doctors seem to be happier not discussing/helping with.

As you said, you felt wrong. I went past that and into serious fatigue, having a hard time keeping fat off despite working out pretty religiously. It was hard just to get up. Did my doctor even go to low testosterone as an automatic check versus "huh, we've checked everything else...I guess MAYBE we can look..." Nope. To me, it should have been one of the first things a doctor should at least test for. It's a simple blood test away that is covered by provincial health plans.

My father was a lazy POS who I have no idea about other than the fact he had EXTREME health problems. He was morbidly obese and in the couple of times I actually spoke to him, he seemed...weird not just in a weird person sense but off as in a mental acuity sense.

Bagua might be able to suggest if low T is on the list of hereditary things? My grandfather on the good side of the family was a force of nature. Army mentality his whole life so I don't know if he just soldiered on past feeling like crap or not. Unfortunately, there is a disconnect in the general discussion of the health of my generation and the previous ones(father and grandfathers). With my children, they know exactly what I'm passing down(Okay, maybe we didn't discuss the need for dick pills) so at least they can give some answers to questions to their doctors. It's good I can perhaps help out with some information, heredity wise.

Me, all I have is question marks so it sucks not being able to find a doctor that is proactive about things like TRT without making me feel like I'm messing with her chi.
I believe our grandfathers had naturally higher test levels.
My grandfather was like yours, army as well, built a garage by himself at 75.
I’m thinking a lot is enviromentaL, our diets.
I know when I lived with my grandparents the diet was way better. We ate at home every night and things were made from scratch, including bread.
 
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