So no GH either?
Or does that count?
Ya there was GH in there lol
I was actually considering maybe taking some starting Monday
So no GH either?
Or does that count?
You probably didn’t wait long enough, did you do any pct?It's been about 60 days now so you should be around half way rebounded to your natural levels for all intents and purposes. How are you doing? I couldn't get my free test above 250 and my history of use is much less than what you mentioned so I am curious to see if your endocrine system is able to get you back into the middle of normal range
Sorry fellas.
Forgot to update.
I couldn’t handle it anymore
I was turning into a pile of mush, I had it. It’s seemed it was just getting worse as I went.
So I got back on
300mgs Test prop
300mgs primo
feel a million times better
right on, glad you are feeling better.
primo is the only thing I never tried yet. maybe I should give it a run
Some love it some think it’s worthless. I think it is worth every penny
It’s seemed it was just getting worse as I went.
feel a million times better
@3ml how long into your experiment was it that you noticed fat starting to accumulate. From your log, it looks like it started to happen pretty quickly...Some love it some think it’s worthless. I think it is worth every penny
I believe you. At about 53 days in from 1g/wk there would be about 1/3 of what a normal endocrine system would produce and that fast of a slide combined with suppressed test production would leave you feeling like hell. If it's any consolation I have found that many people when they try to come off again after going back on for 2-3mths actually don't feel that bad and they have a pretty good go at seeing what they can rebound to naturally. No idea why but that first crash made them and myself feel absolutely horrible but the second kick at the can was actually pretty good. Quite a bit above tolerable actually.
@3ml how long into your experiment was it that you noticed fat starting to accumulate. From your log, it looks like it started to happen pretty quickly...
interesting perhaps a second try wouldn’t be as bad
Especially since I’m running much lower doses
The closest person I have experienced was someone taking TRT with blasts- 1g test per week plus 400/wk tren.
First clean out he was on TRT for 4yrs with 3 blasts per year. Came completely off and the crash was wild. Bloods came back at just over 100 but it was the initial slide that drove him nuts. Felt like shit inside. Went back on TRT as prescribed (150 every 2wks- yup the endo is a pineapple) but blasted again at 1g/wk test and 400 tren for 3mths then off again to clean out for testing. Helped him manipulate the test to get near the 160/170 mark so he could get up to 100/wk from the endo. He came in at just over 150 but the thing is this time he was off for 60 days before timing the injections and he did not have any shit feelings or complaints at all. No sides, good boners, good energy and so on but I know he was nearing the 100 mark in free test by my opinion (have done and worked with others dozens of times manipulating test injections to get specific values) and he had no complaints throughout the process.
I hope you do try one more time just to see. Suggest HCG 2500 every 3 days for 2wks or so in addition to the same 100 clomid/d you took with nolvadex 40/d for 2wks then drop to 50 clomid and 20/d nolvadex for 2wks then stop everything. Too much HCG will be detrimental. @Funnyman has a lot of experiance with PCT. Mine is just me plus some ex-cops and heavy users- mixed results but at least they tried best they could. My experiance also showed 0.5mg caber E3D for 3wks with a minor 12.5mg Aromasin E3D for 12 days to suck out the estrogen helped. My system was swimming in estrogen when I first discontinued use but it came back in line when I took my second blood so I tried aromasin same as I mentioned and the estrogen was right in the range on my first blood. I try to keep my doc at bay with blood results so he does not look at changing anything with me.
@3ml, if you are old enough to remember cranking maximum gear 20 years ago, then you also know that life's too short to be small. imho, Keep cycling and enjoy your life. Look at Ronnie Coleman and how debilitated he got...at least he knew what it was like to be a Champ. Some day when @3ml is 90 years old you'll be happy to have lived. FTW.
Now that blast would be interesting! Look forward to seeing the details!Fuck ya brother
I’m taking er easy right now but I foresee a big run this winter. Maybe my biggest yet!