Decent interview with cutler being open about what he actually ran. Sounds like he would fit in great here. I am sorry this is a Doucette interview...
You need faar less gear, food and training to keep muscle than to build it. Particularly when you've gotten yers worth of hyperplasia via your hgh, tren and igf1 use like Seth and cutler have.Was a good interview, greg didnt talk much lol. Except that one part where greg was trying to talk over him like greg does
I really do not believe there running 650ng/dl to 800 now, and them still being the size they are, sounds like bullshit to me. Even if they still did 1 cycle a year, at those numbers i couldn't imagine holding the muscle on. Maybe 900 to 1100 being consistent, so frequent pinning to keep 900 1100 all week long. And doing blood work twice a year but randomly pinning, hear and there he says i think you cant really go by what he is saying there because honestly thats not accurate.
I think coming off once a year or every 2 years could be beneficial, as cutler said.
Im kinda more amazed that cutler really didnt have alot of experience with what he took, he just kinda said he took it lol and his trainer didnt ask questions etc, maybe i missed something but it sounded like that.
I do agree i think guys are taking way to fucking much gear right now, and not coming off as they should.
You see that recent vid of seth Seth Feroce , where he said he is only on 250 test and a bit of gh now lolol yeh ok seth keep tellin your self that lol.
I believe it, after you have had that much muscle for years it really doesn't take much. Obviously you wont keep it all. Im starting to see it myself, I have really only ran trt for the last year and a half and it seems like I look about the same, especially pumped up. Stan efferding only runs 175mg a week now and hes still huge.Was a good interview, greg didnt talk much lol. Except that one part where greg was trying to talk over him like greg does
I really do not believe there running 650ng/dl to 800 now, and them still being the size they are, sounds like bullshit to me. Even if they still did 1 cycle a year, at those numbers i couldn't imagine holding the muscle on. Maybe 900 to 1100 being consistent, so frequent pinning to keep 900 1100 all week long. And doing blood work twice a year but randomly pinning, hear and there he says i think you cant really go by what he is saying there because honestly thats not accurate.
I think coming off once a year or every 2 years could be beneficial, as cutler said.
Im kinda more amazed that cutler really didnt have alot of experience with what he took, he just kinda said he took it lol and his trainer didnt ask questions etc, maybe i missed something but it sounded like that.
I do agree i think guys are taking way to fucking much gear right now, and not coming off as they should.
You see that recent vid of seth Seth Feroce , where he said he is only on 250 test and a bit of gh now lolol yeh ok seth keep tellin your self that lol.
couldn’t agree more broI heard this interview and several others floating around with Jay.
He sounds confused and changes numbers from interview to interview.
Said one needs to take time off if TRT.
If true TRT one does not need time off unless blasting and TRT, which is not trt.
I honestly do not believe him.
I believe as you guys mention it takes a lot less gear to maintain for AWHILE, like a year or so, but one will not maintain that long term.
I took two years off and first eight months were awesome, then slowly it faded. Did real trt and still got smaller over time.
But I went back on and within eight weeks I was getting huge again as the muscle cells are still there, just deflated unless pumped for a short while.
My avi pic is eight weeks in after three months off recently. Just prior I was 255 no gear. And flatter.I gained some chub, each leg is almost the size of my damn waist. Lol
280 lbs in avi. then I started my cut in December. With low gear again and just ramped up and shit is happening quick.
I personally believe Jay takes more than he says right now. As his numbers change around and he agrees to quickly with others numbers.
I totally AM a Jay fan, he is doing a good thing trying to convince folks low and responsible is the way to go. IMHO.
I always liked Ben, seems like a straight shooter, also super intelligent, I listen to a lot of podcasts that he guests on, super knowledgable guy for sureI really dont think it matters the amount lol.
It was probably extremely high doses at some point
i was at a seminar with ben pak over 10 years ago and he mentioned a typical off season cycle for him looked like
1500mg test
600mg deca
50mg drol or dbol. Can’t remember which one
20mg winstrol
20mg var
8 iu of gh and slin pre and post workout 10iu
Everything pharma grade
I also have a buddy the use to compete that has used up to 30ius of pharma gh daily.
He said the results were not different from using 8
Use as much as you feel you need or your body can handle.
He also could have probably lifted heavier or ate more protein but those things weren’t necessary.
So same can be said for the drugs to
Ya it was a good seminar. Just after he turned pro and it was a small group of usI always liked Ben, seems like a straight shooter, also super intelligent, I listen to a lot of podcasts that he guests on, super knowledgable guy for sure
That’s awesomeYa it was a good seminar. Just after he turned pro and it was a small group of us
lol did you need to see their interviews to confirm thatIt seems that some folks are just genetically superior and a little goes a long way.
I mean these guys are OBSESSIVE about food, training, sleep and all the rest of it. Talk about logging things, taking pictures you name it, yet they don't know what they took? They have to be playing dumb.More then anything Im shocked at how little these guys seem to know. They dont talk in doseage. They talk in amps and pills. Oh i took 2 amps and 5 pills..lol.. well that means nothing. Were they 100mcg of clen each? Or 25..lol
In arnolds book they were taking a handful of dbol not even counting how many. That or they are really just playing dumb.