Quitting Nicotine Accountability Thread.

It’s a terrible fucking addiction and the worst part is even after you quit you’re still not out of the woods. My dad recently died 30 days after he was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. He had quit about 25 yrs ago after being a smoker for about 25yrs.

I started smoking cigars and quit about 6 yrs ago. And these past few weeks I’ve been inclined to putting in an order for a cigar humidor. I’m fiendin’ for a cigar 🚬
 
It’s a terrible fucking addiction and the worst part is even after you quit you’re still not out of the woods. My dad recently died 30 days after he was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. He had quit about 25 yrs ago after being a smoker for about 25yrs.

I started smoking cigars and quit about 6 yrs ago. And these past few weeks I’ve been inclined to putting in an order for a cigar humidor. I’m fiendin’ for a cigar 🚬
Sorry to hear about your dad. I think about that all the time. Someone could quit smoking and get hit by a bus the next day. My grandma smoked her entire life and died of old age in her 90s. Fucked up world.
 
It’s a terrible fucking addiction and the worst part is even after you quit you’re still not out of the woods. My dad recently died 30 days after he was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. He had quit about 25 yrs ago after being a smoker for about 25yrs.

I started smoking cigars and quit about 6 yrs ago. And these past few weeks I’ve been inclined to putting in an order for a cigar humidor. I’m fiendin’ for a cigar 🚬
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Thats all I have to say about that.
 
It’s a terrible fucking addiction and the worst part is even after you quit you’re still not out of the woods. My dad recently died 30 days after he was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. He had quit about 25 yrs ago after being a smoker for about 25yrs.

I started smoking cigars and quit about 6 yrs ago. And these past few weeks I’ve been inclined to putting in an order for a cigar humidor. I’m fiendin’ for a cigar 🚬
People associate lung cancer with smoking so strongly, it is forgotten that over half of all lung cancers are found in nonsmokers.
Statistically after 15 years your dads risk was the same as a never smokers.
My mom died from it too.
We found high radon levels in the house. Cause? Who knows.
It got irritating after a while with people asking "did she smoke?, or I didnt know she smoked" like her lung cancer was clearly her fault because only smokers get it.
 
My mother died from smoking in 2014. She had quit in 2012 after 50 years of smoking. Her lungs turned fibrosis like cotton candy.
She basically suffocated.
I quit in 2012 with her and remained smoke free until 2021. I still don't know why I picked it up again after so long. I hated it, and hated that I was weak when I started again. It along with any addiction is disturbing that humans need a crutch to deal with life.
Hopefully all of us can remain on the wagon and stay as healthy as we can.
 
My dads father was 89 when he died, smoked 2 packs of Peter Jackson’s a day.
My moms father smoked till he was 50, died at 98.

Not saying smoking is good, it’s not.
 
Sorry to hear about your dad. I think about that all the time. Someone could quit smoking and get hit by a bus the next day. My grandma smoked her entire life and died of old age in her 90s. Fucked up world.
I’m over it thnx bud. Damn she lived long for a smoker. My pops smoked at least a pack a day usually closer to 2. Was she a heavy smoker?
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Thats all I have to say about that.

Easy for you to say. You don’t watch Joe Rogan’s podcast everyday 😂
 
I’m over it thnx bud. Damn she lived long for a smoker. My pops smoked at least a pack a day usually closer to 2. Was she a heavy smoker?


Easy for you to say. You don’t watch Joe Rogan’s podcast everyday 😂
No by the end it was probably a few cigarettes a week. I still won't risk it myself my other side of the family all gets cancer even non smokers. When I smoke too now that I do constant blood work I see everything change dramatically while smoking, blood sugar, inflammation, cholesterol and my sleep severely suffers. It's not worth it for me.
 
No by the end it was probably a few cigarettes a week. I still won't risk it myself my other side of the family all gets cancer even non smokers. When I smoke too now that I do constant blood work I see everything change dramatically while smoking, blood sugar, inflammation, cholesterol and my sleep severely suffers. It's not worth it for me.
Wow that’s good to know, never occurred to me

I know it’s a far reach which is why I’ve never mentioned it to anyone but the one thing I noticed was an increase in white hairs in my beard. I mean it was drastic like wild fire and very sudden to the point everyone was commenting on it. When I stopped the white hairs stayed stagnant and didn’t spread. I know it sounds crazy, correlation and not causation, I get it
 
I don't know how anyone can afford cigarettes nowadays lol. I quit 8 years ago when Du Maurier was 12 bucks and I was smoking almost two packs a day.

I think it's more expensive than running low dose gh.

Make that another reason to quit folks, you can include the savings to your gear fund :)
 
It’s a terrible fucking addiction and the worst part is even after you quit you’re still not out of the woods. My dad recently died 30 days after he was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. He had quit about 25 yrs ago after being a smoker for about 25yrs.

I started smoking cigars and quit about 6 yrs ago. And these past few weeks I’ve been inclined to putting in an order for a cigar humidor. I’m fiendin’ for a cigar 🚬
I have a humidor filled with had rolled cigars, I haven't touched one in 2 years but I'm gonna burn one on my birthday this weekend.
 
I don't know how anyone can afford cigarettes nowadays lol. I quit 8 years ago when Du Maurier was 12 bucks and I was smoking almost two packs a day.

I think it's more expensive than running low dose gh.

Make that another reason to quit folks, you can include the savings to your gear fund :)
This is how I might justify gh, I'm thinking of trying some Chinese generic for a few months.
 
I’m over it thnx bud. Damn she lived long for a smoker. My pops smoked at least a pack a day usually closer to 2. Was she a heavy smoker?


Easy for you to say. You don’t watch Joe Rogan’s podcast everyday 😂
I smoked from 15 till 51. I understand the pain.
I figured it was time to quit when I needed a sleep apnea machine. I took it as a sign.
 
Hahahhahahha me to simple as that I smoked for a bit in high school and I was liek this is gross lol simple as that
I wish, I loved and still would love to smoke. If it didn’t destroy your lungs and kill you. But I also used to drink a fair bit, so hand In hand.
 
Just chiming in here with a personal anecdote for anyone with ADHD, diagnosed or otherwise.
I've always had some issues with a binge, then abstinence lifestyle.

Really doesn't matter what the addiction is, from food, exercise, recreational drugs and nicotine (luckily not alcohol), women, sex, attention, work etc. Finding balance is something I struggle with I'm 110% in, and then completely out. Nothing in between.

I do typically burn out from these obsessions, often after a few weeks - and I credit that with saving my life - but binge/burnout cycles are CLASSIC symptoms of ADHD.

Very low dose stimulants (<10mg XR/day), like Adderall have kept me largely on the straight and narrow - but relying on addictive drugs to curtail addictive behaviors is such an uphill battle, and it typically works well, until you crash and burn. Chantix, Wellbutrin and cholinergic agonists , nicotine replacements all have harsh side effects (in me at least).

But nothing, and I repeat nothing, has curtailed my cravings for everything quite as well as Guanfacine (Intuniv). Originally developed as a blood-pressure lowering medication in the same family as Clonidine, low daily dosing has both anti-ADHD properties (reduces impulsive behaviors) and exerts anti-addictive pressure.

The thought of booze, cigarettes, and a whole host of different addictive behaviors is just fucking zero now. The thought of alcohol makes me ill.
As a side effect, expect your blood pressure to drop a few points. For some of us, using certain extremely androgenic hormones like Tren, or powerful B agonists (Clen, ephedrine) this is a good thing.

DO expect A2 agonists, such as guanfacine, to reduce your resting metabolism/heart rate and Co2 excretion (breath rate) a bit. The same way a B agonist increases these things by (2-3%), A2 agonists will decrease it similarly. Very helpful if you have a high resting heart rate. But if it helps you focus in the gym, reduce your alcohol intake (and shitty hangover cravings) and quit smoking so the thought of some cardio days don't make you ill... Well, net positives.

After a month of starting the stuff I forgot to buy smokes for a few weeks. That was 2-3 years ago.
I have no fucking idea when I quit smoking. It became that unimportant to me.

And my task completion skills have nearly doubled. Even on the lowest daily dose.

YMMV.

Good on all of you for quitting toxic AF coping mechanisms from nicotine to methamphetamine, and literally everything inbetween.
 
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Just chiming in here with a personal anecdote for anyone with ADHD, diagnosed or otherwise.
I've always had some issues with a binge, then abstinence lifestyle.

Really doesn't matter what the addiction is, from food, exercise, recreational drugs and nicotine (luckily not alcohol), women, sex, attention, work etc. Finding balance is something I struggle with I'm 110% in, and then completely out. Nothing in between.

I do typically burn out from these obsessions, often after a few weeks - and I credit that with saving my life - but binge/burnout cycles are CLASSIC symptoms of ADHD.

Very low dose stimulants (<10mg XR/day), like Adderall have kept me largely on the straight and narrow - but relying on addictive drugs to curtail addictive behaviors is such an uphill battle, and it typically works well, until you crash and burn. Chantix, Wellbutrin and cholinergic agonists , nicotine replacements all have harsh side effects (in me at least).

But nothing, and I repeat nothing, has curtailed my cravings for everything quite as well as Guanfacine (Intuniv). Originally developed as a blood-pressure lowering medication in the same family as Clonidine, low daily dosing has both anti-ADHD properties (reduces impulsive behaviors) and exerts anti-addictive pressure.

The thought of booze, cigarettes, and a whole host of different addictive behaviors is just fucking zero now. The thought of alcohol makes me ill.
As a side effect, expect your blood pressure to drop a few points. For some of us, using certain extremely androgenic hormones like Tren, or powerful B agonists (Clen, ephedrine) this is a good thing.

After a month of starting the stuff I forgot to buy smokes for a few weeks.
And my task completion skills have nearly doubled. Even on the lowest daily dose.

YMMV.

Good on all of you for quitting toxic AF coping mechanisms from nicotine to methamphetamine, and literally everything inbetween.
That's awesome man good for you. Your behaviors sound like me to a t. Do you still take the adderall as well?
 
That's awesome man good for you. Your behaviors sound like me to a t. Do you still take the adderall as well?

After switching to a keto lifestyle about 5 years ago, I can no longer tolerate high doses of stimulants. A Zero sugar diet has done more for my executive function than anything, so I stick to it.

Anything with high norepinephrine modulating effects (Strattera, Nicotine, Caffeine, Wellbutrin etc. etc.) all make me violently sick and shaky. Goes away completely after my occasional carb-ups for a few days, so I'm confident it's due to the diet (and research supports Keto's effects in epileptics being related to Norepinephrine modulation).

I've been getting the 10mg XR Adderalls (or reverting to other more stims, using proper dose equivalency, obviously), Splitting them into 1/2 or 1/3's and running with that dose. Down from a daily dose of 20mg XR. 3-4mg a day. It's wild.

But yes, I don't recommend Guanfacine without at least SOMETHING dopaminergic. Guanfacine does fuck all for executive function or motivation. It helps a LOT with task completion and follow through, and it 100% alleviates the feelings of "Oh god I'm so bored doing this repetitive task I feel physically ill and am fully willing to quit my job to avoid this task."
 
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