Winny dose

I keep hearing 2 different stories when it comes to oral primo.
1 its a great hardening compound and the other is its a waste cause you need to take way too much for it to be effective to the bioavailability
Have never tried it myself. Would be nice to add if its worked well
 
OTFJOEY said:
I actually just threw in the genetec oral primo with my primo test NPP cycle. I switched from Inno primo to Pareto primo; plus added that oral… wonder if I’ll notice anything ;
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Innos is 150mg and Paretos is 100?
Did you keep the mg/ weekly the same or lower it in oil and compensate the difference with the orals?
I havent used primo a lot, but If I went back to it (and I will) id hope to find a 150 mg version.
 
For winny, it is hard on the ligaments and tendons, i honestly believe it makes them shrink a bit and gets tighter.
IMO, i run it at 25 mg per day, OR...50 mg eod.
Be careful as i just did something to my bicep tendon, minor but i stopped in time and it could have been bad. I am positive it is due to winstrol.
I was doing straight barbell curls with 45 and 25 per side. I normally struggle with that weight, for 10 reps but i got 12 easy reps and then next set i felt something, two days later bruising and pain. Almost fixed up again
It gets you strong fast as well in my experiences.
I find winny and var along with moderate test and deca, or NPP. is a very amazing cycle.
#2 for me for all around love.

Winny var and primo with test moderate dose is wicked as well.

My next one in a week or two i start will be...
Test, Deca, dbol and primo for 8 weeks, Then test primo, var and winny for the following 8 weeks.
I use lots of liver aid also, although var is harder on kidneys than liver but dbol and winny can squeeze the liver a bit over time.
Choline, L methionine and inositol with tudca pretty much makes ones liver bulletproof. I dont drink or tax my liver in any other way than vitamin J, so always been good.
 
ironwill said:
For winny, it is hard on the ligaments and tendons, i honestly believe it makes them shrink a bit and gets tighter.
IMO, i run it at 25 mg per day, OR...50 mg eod.
Be careful as i just did something to my bicep tendon, minor but i stopped in time and it could have been bad. I am positive it is due to winstrol.
I was doing straight barbell curls with 45 and 25 per side. I normally struggle with that weight, for 10 reps but i got 12 easy reps and then next set i felt something, two days later bruising and pain. Almost fixed up again
It gets you strong fast as well in my experiences.
I find winny and var along with moderate test and deca, or NPP. is a very amazing cycle.
#2 for me for all around love.

Winny var and primo with test moderate dose is wicked as well.

My next one in a week or two i start will be...
Test, Deca, dbol and primo for 8 weeks, Then test primo, var and winny for the following 8 weeks.
I use lots of liver aid also, although var is harder on kidneys than liver but dbol and winny can squeeze the liver a bit over time.
Choline, L methionine and inositol with tudca pretty much makes ones liver bulletproof. I dont drink or tax my liver in any other way than vitamin J, so always been good.
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I’m really noticing the strength.
But I’m being careful, if things seem funny, I back off.
Yeah I think
300 mg test
300 mg deca
50 mg winny a day
Would be a wicked cycle.
 
Injectable water based def gives a look IMO but they are both the same

the old school way is win inject 50-100mg EOD
 
OTFJOEY said:
Never ran winny. Scared of the dry joints
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Me too and the hair loss. No idea if what I read is true as I have never used it. The idea of my joints being more sore is not appealing. I recall @Cheapshot stating something about running it with deca and that sounds somewhat appealing.
@Sorbate - any negative sides from using the compound and did you use injectable or just the oral? Please and thanks
 
Recently for two weeks I stopped all injects to give injection spots a break. Used only 40mg winny with hgh during that period. My joints got fucked big time, especially elbows near triceps insertion. For example, I could only do 60% of my usual triceps extention, very slow and high reps, otherwise so hurtful and I thought something was gonna snap. After a month it's coming back slowly, I'd say 85% normal. I would never run it again unless with a good dose of deca, but even with that, there are probably better options which does not dry/shrink/mess up your joints, like var, sdrol, tbol, etc. Never tried halo or proviron but if you're just looking for hardness and strength they could be good options too.
 
Goldenrod said:
Me too and the hair loss. No idea if what I read is true as I have never used it. The idea of my joints being more sore is not appealing. I recall @Cheapshot stating something about running it with deca and that sounds somewhat appealing.
@Sorbate - any negative sides from using the compound and did you use injectable or just the oral? Please and thanks
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Disclaimer:

Right now I am really restricted on my diet, so I have dried up a bit without all the carbs. I'm only eating around 80 grams of carbs a day right now.

Anyhow only about 12 days in so I really can't give you the down low on the negative sides, because well those always seem to pile up later, lol. I am taking pills

Negatives: My shoulders are aching a bit more but I believe its form the extra weight I have been lifting

Positives: I take it about 1 hour preworkout all 50 mg
Pump and better workout.
My body has seemed to fill out more with the same look you get from primo. It is kinda like adding on a better primo?? Maybe its just enhancing the primo. I don't know. Id have to run winny on its on with trt.

Hair loss, I have no idea, I don't care if my hair falls out. Its already thin. People never stare at my hair, but they stare at my shoulders and arms, lol. I will pay attention, but I havn't noticed my hair falling out all over the place.

I will report back on how I thought the winny was once I finish the 6 weeks I plan on running it. But so far zero regrets.
 
MtlStrgth said:
Recently for two weeks I stopped all injects to give injection spots a break. Used only 40mg winny with hgh during that period. My joints got fucked big time, especially elbows near triceps insertion. For example, I could only do 60% of my usual triceps extention, very slow and high reps, otherwise so hurtful and I thought something was gonna snap. After a month it's coming back slowly, I'd say 85% normal. I would never run it again unless with a good dose of deca, but even with that, there are probably better options which does not dry/shrink/mess up your joints, like var, sdrol, tbol, etc. Never tried halo or proviron but if you're just looking for hardness and strength they could be good options too.
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Halo for hardness!! I’m sure it has some effects on physique if used regularly but isn’t halo mainly for aggression ? I’d like to see what a drug like that can do for a physique . It’s just so damn toxic
 
Goldenrod said:
Me too and the hair loss. No idea if what I read is true as I have never used it. The idea of my joints being more sore is not appealing. I recall @Cheapshot stating something about running it with deca and that sounds somewhat appealing.
@Sorbate - any negative sides from using the compound and did you use injectable or just the oral? Please and thanks
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Yes, i also run it with deca. Works very well. Winny is hard on tendons and ligaments. It appears it makes them tighten up and dry out. Which in turn people mistake for joint issues. It doesnt affect joints as there is not much in there to affect. The gel lioke cushion is not affected with winny. It is tendon issues.
 
OTFJOEY said:
Halo for hardness!! I’m sure it has some effects on physique if used regularly but isn’t halo mainly for aggression ? I’d like to see what a drug like that can do for a physique . It’s just so damn toxic
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There's some reports of strength athletes using it before meets with good results. It's almost a pure androgen with minimal anabolic profile, so the physique effects should be almost only cosmetics with no significant muscle gain. On paper the effects of halo seems very similar to mast
 
Sorbate said:
Disclaimer:

Right now I am really restricted on my diet, so I have dried up a bit without all the carbs. I'm only eating around 80 grams of carbs a day right now.

Anyhow only about 12 days in so I really can't give you the down low on the negative sides, because well those always seem to pile up later, lol. I am taking pills

Negatives: My shoulders are aching a bit more but I believe its form the extra weight I have been lifting

Positives: I take it about 1 hour preworkout all 50 mg
Pump and better workout.
My body has seemed to fill out more with the same look you get from primo. It is kinda like adding on a better primo?? Maybe its just enhancing the primo. I don't know. Id have to run winny on its on with trt.

Hair loss, I have no idea, I don't care if my hair falls out. Its already thin. People never stare at my hair, but they stare at my shoulders and arms, lol. I will pay attention, but I havn't noticed my hair falling out all over the place.

I will report back on how I thought the winny was once I finish the 6 weeks I plan on running it. But so far zero regrets.
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80 g of carbs…. I have more than that for breakfast. Good luck lugging around all the stuff you do at work with zero energy. Be careful of your tendons….You’re not remotely young anymore


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Yeah I recently tried halo as I acquired some through an Inno order, the intensity was 100% apparent , but yeah was just kinda saying in regards to aesthetic effects how long and what dose would need to be ran. Obviously there’s better choices when looking at risk:reward.
 
Oldguyjiujitsu said:
80 g of carbs…. I have more than that for breakfast. Good luck lugging around all the stuff you do at work with zero energy. Be careful of your tendons….You’re not remotely young anymore


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I’ll be fine.
I get more hyper when I’m starving then when I’m full. Only difference is when starving I get dizzy sometimes.

Remember the key to having energy is to abuse ephedrine, lol.

And I’m still young. 70 is old, lol.
 
Sorbate said:
I’ll be fine.
I get more hyper when I’m starving then when I’m full. Only difference is when starving I get dizzy sometimes.

Remember the key to having energy is to abuse ephedrine, lol.

And I’m still young. 70 is old, lol.
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Using a good dose of cialis with that? Otherwise you'll get serious case of stim dick ... lol
 
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