Blood pressure

Bolton73 said:
I've recently started using a CPAP, and my BP has dropped considerably (from approx. 145/75 down to approx. 125/65). I had already been on 2 different meds for my BP, and thats as low as it seemed to get until I started using the CPAP.

I was diagnosed with sleep apnea, given a CPAP, and it has been a Godsend. My BP is down, my blood sugar is down, my sleep is much better, and my energy levels are much higher.

Never hurts to get tested for sleep apnea.
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I was also diagnosed 18 months ago with SEVERE sleep apnea. It has improved ALL BW.

Everyone on TRT or cycle regularly should get a sleep test. Testosterone can cause sleep apnea if you have the genetic markers


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Jestopherson said:
Well folks. Just looking for a little insight. I plan to try and keep longevity my largest concern. So I've been taking the steps to help achieve that.

I've been taking my bp measurements for awhile now but just yesterday picked up a glucose monitor as diabetes has appeared in my family from time to time.

Stats
27y/o
6'
195lbs
12-13% bf (an honest estimate)

This mornings measurements fasted

Blood glucose 4.4mmol
Blood pressure 129/89
Beats per minute 57 (I've brought it down over 5 months from 80ish on average)

Current daily supplementation

Omega 3 6g epa/dha
Citrus bergamot 1g
Potassium citrate 6-800mg
Coq 10 400mg
NAC 2g
Vit D3 3-4000ius
Inj. L carnitine 1g
Curcumin 1g
Coated Aspirin 81mg (before bed)
P5P 200mg
UGL cialis 10mg

Cardio 30 minutes 4x weekly. 20 minutes running at 11km/h. Then 10 minutes walking inclined at 6km/h

Water intake 3-4L
Currently eating at maintenance of 2900 cals a day

I don't get why I can't seem to be able to bring my bp down. It's sat consistently at 130-135 for months and I've been running this full supplementation for about 2 months.

Should I up the fish oil to 10g as I've seen suggested? I know 129 isn't crazy high but I'd like to see it lower. I do have an anxiety disorder that does influence it some.
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Your bp @129/89 is actually pretty good wish I had yours lol
 
Oldguyjiujitsu said:
I was also diagnosed 18 months ago with SEVERE sleep apnea. It has improved ALL BW.

Everyone on TRT or cycle regularly should get a sleep test. Testosterone can cause sleep apnea if you have the genetic markers


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I’m going to buy a self adjusting machine off kijji soon. Partly because I don’t have a doctor and don’t feel like spending hours in appointments to buy a machine that self regulates, lol.
Anyhow I guess I snore really bad. Maybe it will help with that.
 
Sorbate said:
I’m going to buy a self adjusting machine off kijji soon. Partly because I don’t have a doctor and don’t feel like spending hours in appointments to buy a machine that self regulates, lol.
Anyhow I guess I snore really bad. Maybe it will help with that.
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My doctor made me an appointment at a sleep clinic, where they gave me an apparatus to take home to test whether i had sleep apnea. The appointment lasted 15 mins max.

I used the apparatus that night and brought it back the next day. They contacted me a couple days later to let me know the results ( i had sleep apnea) and i returned there a few days later to pick up the CPAP machine. She took about 5-10 minutes to show me how it worked, answered my questions, and that was it.

It actually wasn't a long crazy process at all. My talk to your doctor just to see what the process would be like in your neck of the woods.
 
Bolton73 said:
My doctor made me an appointment at a sleep clinic, where they gave me an apparatus to take home to test whether i had sleep apnea. The appointment lasted 15 mins max.

I used the apparatus that night and brought it back the next day. They contacted me a couple days later to let me know the results ( i had sleep apnea) and i returned there a few days later to pick up the CPAP machine. She took about 5-10 minutes to show me how it worked, answered my questions, and that was it.

It actually wasn't a long crazy process at all. My talk to your doctor just to see what the process would be like in your neck of the woods.
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Same scenario for me, they told me I had severe sleep apnea. Stopped breathing 100 plus times a night up to 30 seconds plus several times. These machines are fit with a modem and transmit the info to a sleep tech. On the CPAP machine, I stop breathing 2-3 times a night, don't snore, and when I do stop breathing the machine forces me to start again in seconds.
The two short visits were covered, the machine was covered, and all subsequent parts are covered up to 10K. After that amount, I have to pay out of pocket.
You can go local and pay more but have someone to talk to in person or do it online with the same service but you can't visit them for half the cost.
There is a huge recall on several CPAP machines as the noise reduction foam is breaking down in some machines and is considered a carcinogen, so look up the model before spending the $.
 
Bolton73 said:
My doctor made me an appointment at a sleep clinic, where they gave me an apparatus to take home to test whether i had sleep apnea. The appointment lasted 15 mins max.

I used the apparatus that night and brought it back the next day. They contacted me a couple days later to let me know the results ( i had sleep apnea) and i returned there a few days later to pick up the CPAP machine. She took about 5-10 minutes to show me how it worked, answered my questions, and that was it.

It actually wasn't a long crazy process at all. My talk to your doctor just to see what the process would be like in your neck of the woods.
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I have no doctor. It’s actually very difficult to find one where I live. I have been using online doctors. Maybe they can send me to a specialist?
 
Goldenrod said:
Same scenario for me, they told me I had severe sleep apnea. Stopped breathing 100 plus times a night up to 30 seconds plus several times. These machines are fit with a modem and transmit the info to a sleep tech. On the CPAP machine, I stop breathing 2-3 times a night, don't snore, and when I do stop breathing the machine forces me to start again in seconds.
The two short visits were covered, the machine was covered, and all subsequent parts are covered up to 10K. After that amount, I have to pay out of pocket.
You can go local and pay more but have someone to talk to in person or do it online with the same service but you can't visit them for half the cost.
There is a huge recall on several CPAP machines as the noise reduction foam is breaking down in some machines and is considered a carcinogen, so look up the model before spending the $.
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Oh you guys who work at a corporation with benefits, lol.
I know it’s partly covered by a program in Ontario, but not $10,000, lol.

I have looked on Kijjiji and a ResMed Airsense 10 auto set machine sells for about 400. They are 1200 new online. I guess old people die and the family sells their machines. There are a few close your me I’m going to check out Monday.
 
Sorbate said:
I have no doctor. It’s actually very difficult to find one where I live. I have been using online doctors. Maybe they can send me to a specialist?
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you don't need a doctor or specialist for a referral. you can just book and appointment with a Sleep Clinic. I am sure there must be one near you as they are popping up everywhere.

The test and going to a clinic is worth it. Turned out i stopped breathing like 60 times per HOUR. Some of it was obstructive apneas (broken noses, etc) and some of it was central apnea (brain forgot to send the signal to breath). I tell you this because i have the self adjusting machine but the clinic set it up not to use that feature. because of the high number of apneas the self adjusting put the positive pressure too high. When the machine does most of the breathing for you it can cause more central apneas. The clinic did a good job of adjusting and monitoring and adjusting again to dial my machine in perfectly for me....plus because the machine has wifi and a sim card it was all done online during Covid. All done remotely and they would update me via text when they needed to make changes.
 
Oldguyjiujitsu said:
you don't need a doctor or specialist for a referral. you can just book and appointment with a Sleep Clinic. I am sure there must be one near you as they are popping up everywhere.

The test and going to a clinic is worth it. Turned out i stopped breathing like 60 times per HOUR. Some of it was obstructive apneas (broken noses, etc) and some of it was central apnea (brain forgot to send the signal to breath). I tell you this because i have the self adjusting machine but the clinic set it up not to use that feature. because of the high number of apneas the self adjusting put the positive pressure too high. When the machine does most of the breathing for you it can cause more central apneas. The clinic did a good job of adjusting and monitoring and adjusting again to dial my machine in perfectly for me....plus because the machine has wifi and a sim card it was all done online during Covid. All done remotely and they would update me via text when they needed to make changes.
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Will the sleep clinic give me a prescription for a machine?
I’ll check it out.
im nit sure if I have sleep apnea or bad snoring, but either way the machine should give me better sleep.
 
Sorbate said:
Will the sleep clinic give me a prescription for a machine?
I’ll check it out.
im nit sure if I have sleep apnea or bad snoring, but either way the machine should give me better sleep.
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Yes, typically at the sleep clinic you work with a respiratory therapist not a doctor. They only need a prescription if you want it covered by Benefits. If you have benefits they will get a Dr they work with (usually an ENT) to sign it off....you don't have to do anything. It was all very hassle free for me and quick.

If you want to buy one independent i would NOT buy a used one...not very hygienic and these things can cause serious sinus infections. It would be like sharing a tooth brush. you can buy online without a prescription at CPAPMachinesCanda.ca

Sorry for the derail @Goldenrod but Sleep Apnea, gear and BP all go hand in hand in many circumstances.
 
Veryu similar with me.
Goldenrod said:
Same scenario for me, they told me I had severe sleep apnea. Stopped breathing 100 plus times a night up to 30 seconds plus several times. These machines are fit with a modem and transmit the info to a sleep tech. On the CPAP machine, I stop breathing 2-3 times a night, don't snore, and when I do stop breathing the machine forces me to start again in seconds.
The two short visits were covered, the machine was covered, and all subsequent parts are covered up to 10K. After that amount, I have to pay out of pocket.
You can go local and pay more but have someone to talk to in person or do it online with the same service but you can't visit them for half the cost.
There is a huge recall on several CPAP machines as the noise reduction foam is breaking down in some machines and is considered a carcinogen, so look up the model before spending the $.
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With the intial test, I stopped breathing and average of 212 times an hour (approx 160 times a night). After the first week of using the CPAP machine, it went down to 0,2 times an hour (1-2 times a night).

Its worked wonders.
 
Oldguyjiujitsu said:
you don't need a doctor or specialist for a referral. you can just book and appointment with a Sleep Clinic. I am sure there must be one near you as they are popping up everywhere.

The test and going to a clinic is worth it. Turned out i stopped breathing like 60 times per HOUR. Some of it was obstructive apneas (broken noses, etc) and some of it was central apnea (brain forgot to send the signal to breath). I tell you this because i have the self adjusting machine but the clinic set it up not to use that feature. because of the high number of apneas the self adjusting put the positive pressure too high. When the machine does most of the breathing for you it can cause more central apneas. The clinic did a good job of adjusting and monitoring and adjusting again to dial my machine in perfectly for me....plus because the machine has wifi and a sim card it was all done online during Covid. All done remotely and they would update me via text when they needed to make changes.
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I agree, its far better to have some professionals in the moix, monitoring the situation. They've made a few adjustments (online) of the settings on my machine, so that its dialed in to my personal needs. I would never have been able to figure all that stuff out myself.
 
Bolton73 said:
Veryu similar with me.

With the intial test, I stopped breathing and average of 212 times an hour (approx 160 times a night). After the first week of using the CPAP machine, it went down to 0,2 times an hour (1-2 times a night).

Its worked wonders.
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Did you notice a big difference in your awareness during the day?
 
Oldguyjiujitsu said:
Yes, typically at the sleep clinic you work with a respiratory therapist not a doctor. They only need a prescription if you want it covered by Benefits. If you have benefits they will get a Dr they work with (usually an ENT) to sign it off....you don't have to do anything. It was all very hassle free for me and quick.

If you want to buy one independent i would NOT buy a used one...not very hygienic and these things can cause serious sinus infections. It would be like sharing a tooth brush. you can buy online without a prescription at CPAPMachinesCanda.ca

Sorry for the derail @Goldenrod but Sleep Apnea, gear and BP all go hand in hand in many circumstances.
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Cool, I had just read you needed a prescription.
only reason I was going to buy second hand. Truthfully I don’t trust the crooks on Kijjiji when it comes to buying electronics. I know my street dwelling stepson would root thru garbage, find things then post them to sell in perfect working condition. He would meet people in front of buildings that he didn’t live at so no one could come back at him.

I think the government kicks in a certian amount of money if you have a prescription. I’ll need tl chevk that out. I think they cover like 700 worth or something like that.

edit: cpapmachinescanada.ca requires a prescription. I just checked.
 
Grindtight said:
Goldenrod is the pic displaying that the cpap machine actually helps lower your BP?
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I'm not sure specifically if a CPAP machine will lower your BP but proper sleep - enough of it and the right kind is important for good BP so I assume a CPAP machine for Apnea would be a step in the right direction.
My BP is usually under 120/70 anyway with the off higher reading.
The pic is my norm BP most days. When I forgot my CPAP machine of have insomnia, it often raises 5-10 points.
 
Sorbate said:
Cool, I had just read you needed a prescription.
only reason I was going to buy second hand. Truthfully I don’t trust the crooks on Kijjiji when it comes to buying electronics. I know my street dwelling stepson would root thru garbage, find things then post them to sell in perfect working condition. He would meet people in front of buildings that he didn’t live at so no one could come back at him.

I think the government kicks in a certian amount of money if you have a prescription. I’ll need tl chevk that out. I think they cover like 700 worth or something like that.

edit: cpapmachinescanada.ca requires a prescription. I just checked.
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Just go to sleep clinic… I did a quick Google, there are four in your area


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Bolton73 said:
Veryu similar with me.

With the intial test, I stopped breathing and average of 212 times an hour (approx 160 times a night). After the first week of using the CPAP machine, it went down to 0,2 times an hour (1-2 times a night).

Its worked wonders.
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Let me correct a typo - it should be 21 times an hour
 
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