I haven't had any dick issues yet thank god, I’m in 4 weeks into npp than switched to Deca last week, no dick issues yet if they do arise I will just bump my test up to 750mg /week.same except for the dick issues.. wow I will never forget that day what a fucking nightmare... depressing stuff...lol
now we are on the topic of "quality muscle gains" I understand because tren is a dry compound you wont bloat like deca or other stuff. So does that mean you will keep most if not all your tren gains when you stop it/drop to a cruise? someone please say yes
Bulking cycle.
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@Zuespas gave you good advice.
No, wait... @Zuespas gave you GREAT advice... and here you go modifying it before you even try it.
We've had this discussion on this Board before, and it is so disheartening to take the time out of the day to give advice based on real life experience and have guys not follow it.
I even went as far as to make a post about how much money some guys were making per hour, yet a handful of guys took an hour or more of their time to respond to a post, and they OP didn't follow any if the advice.
Again, the next time you make a post, be honest with the Board that you not serious about making gains, and ask them for horribly useless cycles, and you'll get no responses, only mockery.
Please follow @Zuespas cycle. Heck, I'm headed into an almost identical cycle that he recommended to you because those dosages work.
I hope you seriously consider how much people pay to get training advice from a coach who will drop you if you don't follow his/her regimen on one or two points.
I wasn't trying to mean any offense by saying I may lower the doses a bit. I am more a less trying to be cautious. I have never ran eq or npp. I've only done a couple test only cycles, and a test and winstrol cycle. Based on the repsones it got and more research I've done since he suggested it I think it will be a great cycle, and I probably will run it the way its stated. Like I said just want to be somewhat cautious.
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sorry for my harsh response, but a very knowledgable person who puts theircreputation on the line isn't trying to cause you grief, he's trying to help you. thanks for clearing this up!
You can definitely make this work at lower doses. What I would suggest is you drop the test to 500, eq to 300 and leave the npp at 300.
this makes it easy to pin Monday Wednesday Friday
Mon
1cc test
1/2cc eq
1cc npp
Wed
1cc npp
fri
1cc test
1/2cc eq
1cc npp
With your stats (although you left out some), there's really no reason you can't do a great bulk cycle with something like 500-800mg of test only. IF your not growing on that your either not eating/trainging properly or you have extensive steriod use history. Keep in mind, according to your goals your only looking to add 10-20lbs..
It's better to add 10-20lbs with a low/moderate amount of gear then add the mass with a high amount of gear. You'll find it easier to retain gains and over all health would be better.
Whats your age, gear experience, diet, training like?
I have limited gear experience, definitely do not have a problem growing while taking it. I stay around 10% body fat year round. I've been training for 15 years natural and close to 2 years with some form of enhancement. I have done 2 test only cycles and a test and winstrol cycle. Never have taken test above 400mg a week. 31 years old. I would say my diet is on point. I'll post up a current picture. 190bs in this pic.
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Thank you @Zuespas I appreciate you taking the time to help me out. That protocol looks really good as well.
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I have limited gear experience, definitely do not have a problem growing while taking it. I stay around 10% body fat year round. I've been training for 15 years natural and close to 2 years with some form of enhancement. I have done 2 test only cycles and a test and winstrol cycle. Never have taken test above 400mg a week. 31 years old. I would say my diet is on point. I'll post up a current picture. 190bs in this pic.
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Brother... if you had no issues gorwing on 400mg test, just do 400-600mg again... Once you do a big cycle you will understand the law of diminishing returns.. Don't wreck it for yourself after your 3rd cycle.
Nice build, 500mg prop a week and a good diet for 12-14 weeks and you'll see huge improvements.
Nice physique bro 
you’d definitely benefit from a long EQ NPP cycle ... is even switch the npp out for masteron. You’ll look amazing by the end of it. But all in all not really a bulk protocol. If you ate big enough I’m sure you could make it work. I’m wondering why the NPP is being suggested over deca? Although I guess deca eq wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense.
nobody would suggest tren e for this guy with some eq?
nobody would suggest tren e for this guy with some eq?
Thanks man. I'm really liking the idea of the npp, and eq. I'm definitely not ready for tren yet and am little scared to ever try it just based on my personality haha.
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You look good man! You’ll do awesome on that cycle. Keep us posted on your progress.
I’m sure this will be more than suitable for your goals then bro
Definitely see that you put in the natural years of work ... admirable. Keep going bro I’m sure you’ll love the variety of anabolics don’t be scared to try things just stay on top of dr visits and blood work.
I dunno if the years of natural work was admirable haha it was pretty miserable by the end haha. I've liked the change a lot so far. I find it difficult to not try everything all at once haha. I couldn't make up my mind for what I wanted to do for my fall cycle which is why I posted here in the first place haha.
Thanks man, I will maybe do a log of the cycle when I start it. Probably be starting in Aug, or Sept.
I typically feel that the battle between Drol and dbol is what doesn't kill your appetite and spike your bp. Adrol absolutely kills my appetite thus doesn't make for a good mass builder. But that's me.
500mg test enth and 100mg anadrol grow like a weed