What kind of cholesterol medication works best with least amount of side effects?

[Oldguyjiujitsu]

The goal is to crush your LDL,

since my late 20s my LDL was over 4 and my HDL under 2. Dr did a calcium score every five years until I was 50. It came back as zero each time. After 50 my score was reasonable, but it was 25 (out of 400). So starting to accumulate plaque in the widow maker artery

Dr. wanted to put me on statins and I said I wanted to go the natural route and try the Omega, red yeast, etc. She gave me one year. I did improve my LDL to 3.7 but that was not good enough

I took 5mg crestor (dosages range from 5mg to 40 or 50). After six months doctor retested my LDL, and it was under one. Since I got it under one, there’s been some really good research of the effectiveness of every other day so I now take 5 mg every other day and the LDL is still crushed.

I don’t love taking a statin, but I did hit the target my doctor told me it would.

Everybody has to do their own research. Get a calcium score, try everything else first and then, if necessary, consider medical intervention. All men in my family have heart attacks in their 50s… I’d like to avoid that. (yes most were healthy military man).

I do believe the main problem is inflammation in the body and most is caused by stress. I do believe when I retire in the next few years I’ll be able to come off the statin completely

 

[Durk]

I have high cholesterol too. I tried red yeast rice. I had to go to the states to get it, but they took out the active ingredient and it did fuck all for me. I tried high doses of omega 3s. Lifelabs said my blood was so thin that they thought I was on blood thinners, but again my cholesterol was high.

Now I am trying high fiber. I am eating almost a cup of oats ground into my protein shakes 3 times a day. The first two weeks were rough and stinky, but I persevered. I will now also be adding Metamucil once a day as well. I have another appointment Oct 19. I will report back with the results of my experiment then.

 

[Durk]

Also a mold that grows in coffee is supposedly the biggest stimulant of cholesterol out there. You can get rid of most of it if you run it through a filter, but French press, cold brew and espresso doesn’t and can increase your cholesterol as well.

 

[Bigbear]

Citrus bergamot, berberine, carderine, red yeast rice, fibre, fish oil all worth looking into I also need to get a handle on mine.
Heard K2/d3 could clean up plaque as well good luck!

Even just taking vitamin d3 without k2 can make it worse..
Negative effects associated with vitamin D excess include hyperphosphataemia, hypercalcaemia, increased matrix metalloproteinase (MMP) levels, medial calcification, arterial stiffness and left ventricular hypertrophy.Mar 19, 2012

 

[Bigbear]

The goal is to crush your LDL,

since my late 20s my LDL was over 4 and my HDL under 2. Dr did a calcium score every five years until I was 50. It came back as zero each time. After 50 my score was reasonable, but it was 25 (out of 400). So starting to accumulate plaque in the widow maker artery

Dr. wanted to put me on statins and I said I wanted to go the natural route and try the Omega, red yeast, etc. She gave me one year. I did improve my LDL to 3.7 but that was not good enough

I took 5mg crestor (dosages range from 5mg to 40 or 50). After six months doctor retested my LDL, and it was under one. Since I got it under one, there’s been some really good research of the effectiveness of every other day so I now take 5 mg every other day and the LDL is still crushed.

I don’t love taking a statin, but I did hit the target my doctor told me it would.

Everybody has to do their own research. Get a calcium score, try everything else first and then, if necessary, consider medical intervention. All men in my family have heart attacks in their 50s… I’d like to avoid that. (yes most were healthy military man).

I do believe the main problem is inflammation in the body and most is caused by stress. I do believe when I retire in the next few years I’ll be able to come off the statin completely

I've asked numerous doctors numerous times for a calcium score and can never seem to get one. Either they won't because I'm too young (almost 40) or because I don't have heart disease in my parents. The oare ts is a major risk factor amd without it it changes how they work with the person

 

[Oldguyjiujitsu]

I've asked numerous doctors numerous times for a calcium score and can never seem to get one. Either they won't because I'm too young (almost 40) or because I don't have heart disease in my parents. The oare ts is a major risk factor amd without it it changes how they work with the person

In Alberta, my GP writes me a referral to a private clinic and I pay the $465 and get it done once every five years.

I’ve attached a good video as well. I’ve worked with Andrew several times. He’s a really good guy.

 

[Bigbear]

In Alberta, my GP writes me a referral to a private clinic and I pay the $465 and get it done once every five years.

I’ve attached a good video as well. I’ve worked with Andrew several times. He’s a really good guy.

I think in ontario we can't get the refferal unless we are above medium risk, like a parent with heart disease, you already have high blood pressure or diabetes and be over the age of 40 I believe.

 

[Sorbate]

Even just taking vitamin d3 without k2 can make it worse..
Negative effects associated with vitamin D excess include hyperphosphataemia, hypercalcaemia, increased matrix metalloproteinase (MMP) levels, medial calcification, arterial stiffness and left ventricular hypertrophy.Mar 19, 2012

I took vit d at 4000 iu for 20 years without k3. So maybe it dies that to someone people.
In vit d studies they saw no negative effects up to a 10000 iu a day except stomach discomfort.
Id like to see the study. Do you have a link?

 

[Bigbear]

I took vit d at 4000 iu for 20 years without k3. So maybe it dies that to someone people.
In vit d studies they saw no negative effects up to a 10000 iu a day except stomach discomfort.
Id like to see the study. Do you have a link?

I don't remember exactly where I heard it a while ago but this one just popped up quick

Vitamin D and Cardiovascular Disease

It has long been known from case series that vitamin D excess can lead to atherosclerosis and vascular calcification in humans. In the 1980s, ecological studies provided data that deficient human vitamin D status may also increase the risk of developing cardiovascular disease (CVD). The...

ar.iiarjournals.org

 

[Palmer1991]

I don't remember exactly where I heard it a while ago but this one just popped up quick

Vitamin D and Cardiovascular Disease

It has long been known from case series that vitamin D excess can lead to atherosclerosis and vascular calcification in humans. In the 1980s, ecological studies provided data that deficient human vitamin D status may also increase the risk of developing cardiovascular disease (CVD). The...

ar.iiarjournals.org

So I just did a quick skim and it says it benefits you up to a certain dose but 20,000ui a day or 300,000ui a month has shown an increased risk... doses from 400-5000ui a day shown positive benefits.... it said something about insulin sensitivity issues with HIV patients, again I skimmed, so I think it only applied to the HIV patients and even the evidence of that was still limited... so it's basically one of those things where u gotta take the right amount. Like vitamin A, absolutely important to take but too much causes vit a toxicity similar to alcohol poisoning causing liver damage and jaundice.
You had me scared there. I always get thrown back when I hear something that is the exact opposite to what I believe and practice lol

 

[Bigbear]

So I just did a quick skim and it says it benefits you up to a certain dose but 20,000ui a day or 300,000ui a month has shown an increased risk... doses from 400-5000ui a day shown positive benefits.... it said something about insulin sensitivity issues with HIV patients, again I skimmed, so I think it only applied to the HIV patients and even the evidence of that was still limited... so it's basically one of those things where u gotta take the right amount. Like vitamin A, absolutely important to take but too much causes vit a toxicity similar to alcohol poisoning causing liver damage and jaundice.
You had me scared there. I always get thrown back when I hear something that is the exact opposite to what I believe and practice lol

Yea I didn't anything about it I think it was a random doctors post on my Instagram. He's trusted and credible but I didn't look into the references. I just aimed to buy d3 with k2 all the time to avoid any issues

 

[Palmer1991]

I've wondered how much vitamin d we absorb from the sun

 

[Goldenrod]

Get some Carlson fish oil, take up to 1 tablespoon 15 ml max problem solved.
Red yeast is great as well.

little late to table but it was Funnyman who got me to read up on Carleson's product (he just mentioned it one day I think and considering his experience I figured I should start reading on the company) and I have been using since. It is more expensive but you can get it on Vitacost for a 'reasonable' price. The catch is it is very high is DHA and EPA so it may appear expensive but compare it to another bottle and the DHA/EPA content pending their advertising is legit.
Nothing works better from a natural perspective than quality fish oil (for me). I always start high and slowly reduce it.

 

[Bigbear]

little late to table but it was Funnyman who got me to read up on Carleson's product (he just mentioned it one day I think and considering his experience I figured I should start reading on the company) and I have been using since. It is more expensive but you can get it on Vitacost for a 'reasonable' price. The catch is it is very high is DHA and EPA so it may appear expensive but compare it to another bottle and the DHA/EPA content pending their advertising is legit.
Nothing works better from a natural perspective than quality fish oil (for me). I always start high and slowly reduce it.

Is fish oil good for lowering ldl or just lowering triglycerides?

 

[Bigbear]

I took vit d at 4000 iu for 20 years without k3. So maybe it dies that to someone people.
In vit d studies they saw no negative effects up to a 10000 iu a day except stomach discomfort.
Id like to see the study. Do you have a link?

Another thing I've read over time is without propper magnesium levels your body won't metabloiz vitamin d.

 

[Sorbate]

Another thing I've read over time is without propper magnesium levels your body won't metabloiz vitamin d.

I take magnesium as well. I used to get cramping on cycle and that fixed it.

 

[Bigbear]

What I've found is dha can raise ldl but also make it larger particles so it's safer. Smaller ldl particles are more dangerous

 

[DeeKnows]

I watched a podcast with Joe Rogan and a high level cardiologist and he believes that high cholestrol giving heart duease is way overstated. He has dat a and studies to back this up. I guess statins were a money maker, so prescribe you everyone.

If someone has a heat attack though they will prolong life, but not stastical difference if one taking a statin and one not in disease progression pre heartattack. Btw the cholestrol lowering ability is not what prolongs lifespan in post heart attack people, it’s another mechanism brought on by the use of statins.

I remember watching this episode before and also watching other videos and reading some pages on the fact that cholesterol is getting a bad wrap amd being blamed for heart issues when really its other things.
The thoughts that came to my mind was that all those egg farmer families eat tons of eggs and are just fine. But if you eat 3 whole eggs a day and get bloodwork done the doc says you have high cholesterol and are at risk for heart disease. I dunno, big pharma is big business so its hard to decifer the truth without fully digging into it.

 

[Bigbear]

I remember watching this episode before and also watching other videos and reading some pages on the fact that cholesterol is getting a bad wrap amd being blamed for heart issues when really its other things.
The thoughts that came to my mind was that all those egg farmer families eat tons of eggs and are just fine. But if you eat 3 whole eggs a day and get bloodwork done the doc says you have high cholesterol and are at risk for heart disease. I dunno, big pharma is big business so its hard to decifer the truth without fully digging into it.

There was also a confusing part where they said dietary cholesterol has no risk. Everyone said ok eggs amd cheese are good but it's not the dietary cholesterol in food it the saturated fats that raise cholesterol. But agree its no longer as much about ldl amd hdl but apo a and apo b and the different sizes of high and low density particles.

 

[Bigbear]

More clearly I mean before I was into reading studys I just would hear dietary cholesterol is no longer considered a culprit but I thought by dietary cholesterol they meant saturated fats (dietary factor contributing to high cholesterol) lol.