Harley00
The Rebel
GONNA NEED YOU EDUCATED GUYS ON THIS. Iv added labs at bottom.
help would be greatly appreciated. Ill try to keep this simple.
Went in for blood work for thyroid as on a scale from 1 to 10 on trt i feel a 7 outa 10, prior to trt i felt a 2 outa 10 last December
Did some blood works a month ago showing low calcium and low phosphate, so then proceeded with more blood work including t4 and t3 tsh.
T4 came back very low
T3 is good
Tsh high normal.
Doc will not prescribe the t4
Says since im on self medicated trt that he cant prescribe me t4 because it could lead to other issues bla bla bla.
His words were your lh and fsh and calcium and phosphate and t4 is all related to the synthetic test your taking( i know my lh and fsh are tanked im not makin it is what i told him). He said trt suppress all those and he cannot give me anything unless i come off trt for 2 months and re test natural again......seen this coming.
Long story short pissed me off because i went in there a year ago telling him if he doesn't give me trt im doing it on my own because i wasnt going to live another day feeling this drianed, he tested my test but not thyroid at that time .... so unfortunately i do not have any base levels of my thyroid. Had i known then what i no know it would have been a different story im so much more educated now but fakk ...i know im gonna feel like shit for 5 months by time this gets movin docs are so slow now
1.could this be true that trt is suppressing my thyroid and calcium phosphate bla bla because of trt ? Just doesn't make sence how all these guys can be on trt and not need t4 etc.
2. Big question.
He wants me to stop trt to do retesting and he said if test is low he will prescribe, last year it was aeound 580 and i felt like shit and he wouldnt give me trt because he said he cant unless its 300 ish, this guy is by the book 100% told me he has only prescribe 3 guys on trt... i wanna crash my test for that test but i also want a fairly accurate thyroid reading i wanna do this right but yet slightly wrong to get prescribe trt. Could i take rad 140 7 days before testing aftwe the 2 months off or could i run proviron for 30 days prior to testing?
Also should i run a full pct or should i suffer through and take the shitty recovery. And allow my self to get even lower then last year.
Question 2 is silly but he isnt goong to prescribe me noithin unless its low. I wanna be accurate but i will not accept the non trt after being on it theres just a ridiculous difference. Negotiations will not happen with him but he said he absolutely will prescribe whats needed in my December testing as i go bavk to work soon and not home till dec.
So i basically wanna keep my test low for that blood test . This is not the right way to do it, but sometimes whats wrong is right depending on the situation, any info be great thnx gentlemen.
If i answered my own question it would be that i come off and be fair and get true results on test and thyroid. But i know that he wont do trt at my reference range. So whats gonna happen is my thyroid will show low still im betting and then its a fight for trt then what... lol i told him today id crash my test and then get pharma and lol funny thing is he said if its low ill weite yeh the prescription.lol so hear i am .....pondering....if i crash my test low how much will that effect my thyroid?
help would be greatly appreciated. Ill try to keep this simple.
Went in for blood work for thyroid as on a scale from 1 to 10 on trt i feel a 7 outa 10, prior to trt i felt a 2 outa 10 last December
Did some blood works a month ago showing low calcium and low phosphate, so then proceeded with more blood work including t4 and t3 tsh.
T4 came back very low
T3 is good
Tsh high normal.
Doc will not prescribe the t4
Says since im on self medicated trt that he cant prescribe me t4 because it could lead to other issues bla bla bla.
His words were your lh and fsh and calcium and phosphate and t4 is all related to the synthetic test your taking( i know my lh and fsh are tanked im not makin it is what i told him). He said trt suppress all those and he cannot give me anything unless i come off trt for 2 months and re test natural again......seen this coming.
Long story short pissed me off because i went in there a year ago telling him if he doesn't give me trt im doing it on my own because i wasnt going to live another day feeling this drianed, he tested my test but not thyroid at that time .... so unfortunately i do not have any base levels of my thyroid. Had i known then what i no know it would have been a different story im so much more educated now but fakk ...i know im gonna feel like shit for 5 months by time this gets movin docs are so slow now
1.could this be true that trt is suppressing my thyroid and calcium phosphate bla bla because of trt ? Just doesn't make sence how all these guys can be on trt and not need t4 etc.
2. Big question.
He wants me to stop trt to do retesting and he said if test is low he will prescribe, last year it was aeound 580 and i felt like shit and he wouldnt give me trt because he said he cant unless its 300 ish, this guy is by the book 100% told me he has only prescribe 3 guys on trt... i wanna crash my test for that test but i also want a fairly accurate thyroid reading i wanna do this right but yet slightly wrong to get prescribe trt. Could i take rad 140 7 days before testing aftwe the 2 months off or could i run proviron for 30 days prior to testing?
Also should i run a full pct or should i suffer through and take the shitty recovery. And allow my self to get even lower then last year.
Question 2 is silly but he isnt goong to prescribe me noithin unless its low. I wanna be accurate but i will not accept the non trt after being on it theres just a ridiculous difference. Negotiations will not happen with him but he said he absolutely will prescribe whats needed in my December testing as i go bavk to work soon and not home till dec.
So i basically wanna keep my test low for that blood test . This is not the right way to do it, but sometimes whats wrong is right depending on the situation, any info be great thnx gentlemen.
If i answered my own question it would be that i come off and be fair and get true results on test and thyroid. But i know that he wont do trt at my reference range. So whats gonna happen is my thyroid will show low still im betting and then its a fight for trt then what... lol i told him today id crash my test and then get pharma and lol funny thing is he said if its low ill weite yeh the prescription.lol so hear i am .....pondering....if i crash my test low how much will that effect my thyroid?
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