I got my firsrt vaccination for covid today.
I had zero plans to get it until I had a doctors appointment today with my regular doctor. This guy has been very very good to me. He's done some things for me 15 other doctors couldn't figure out or refuse to treat properly. I sincerily owe this guy for a lot of the health and happiness I got back in my life in the last few years. He's not perfect, but I do have a lot of respect for him and I've known his family for 14 years. Infact he and his wife have invited me and my family over for drinks several times over the last 14 years.
Either way, we had a very blunt off the record talk. He explained how the vaccines work and admitted to all their short comings etc. He said originial covid was actually a joke in terms of how bad it was to get, but the variants like Delta are not even close to the origianl covid. He said the new variants, delta being the worst right now will literally attack every body organ and system.
He told me of a 30 year old guy a couple days ago got covid and was dead within 48 hours due to total organ shut down. He had no other risk factors. They worked on keeping him alive for 5 hours here, before air lifting him to the big city. And they couldn't do anything for him.. total organ failure. He wasn't vaccinated.
He said its not a lie that the ICU beds are stuffed right now. People are dying who shouldn't because there's no room. He didn't paint it like a doomesday scenario, but he told me what he sees with his own eyes. Yes, if you get a ICU bed you'll have a much better chance of living if you get a severe case, but the ICU beds are full and its not even full flue season yet.
What really hit home was he told me there are countries who are trying to create in the lab all the possible variants that covid CAN turn into. And he said they have discovered some variants that they predict have extremly high mortality rates.
He kept repeating to me that original covid really was a joke in terms of how deadly it was.
Is death rare for covid? Yes, but he gave me the numbers of the odds you have of getting a severe case with the new variants compared to the odds of having a severe reaction to the vaccines.
About the vaccines, he said they are not real vaccines. They know this, but they do give your immune system a boost to fight covid specfically. He told me the odds I get a bad case of covid comapred to a bad reaction to the shot are not worth declining the shot. His whole family is vaccinated and he himself has just gotten his 3rd short since they know the immunity they provide is not long lasting. He also told me its false that the vaccination prevents your body building antibodies to covid if you get covid while vaccinated. He said your body will still make those anti bodies even fully vaccinated.
I asked if I had covid previsoualy, why get the shot? And he said if I had the origianl covid or early variants they do boost your ability to fight the variants, but the variant potentials can be quite severe so that natural antibodies help, but he said its still a good idea to get the shots.
I asked "if we all went and got covid the first go round, would all these variants still exist".. He said more than likely yes.. My understanding from what he said is that the world just needs to get covid and get all the antibodies to covid and its variants.. It's going to take a long time for this to happen without a true vaccine. But getting the current vaccines will help us deal with things until that happens.
He really did help me understand how nasty the delta variant is and how many people its taken out. He admitted the shots are not 100% gurrentee of anything, but he said there's nothing to loose in getting them, but lots to gain. He did acknowledge some people are dying from the shots.
I asked will we ever get a real vaccines using the dead virus that's actually a vaccine? He said yes that's the plan, but its not going very well and when they do make it, to get it out to 8.5 billion people will take time.. And right now its not a good idea to risk it in his opinion.
To be perfectly clear, you guys know me lol.. I do not think anyone has the right to force you to take any vaccination. I fully support you for not getting it if that's your choice. This doctor has the same mentality, but he spoke to me like a person not like a patient and took the time to present to me his opinion along with the things he knows from his proffession. It was quite the conversation between two people, not a doctor and a patient.
I did not get it to appease the government or my employeer. I did not get it to have "normal" back. I am one of the last people who would have gotten it for those reasons.
I support and respect anyone's choice.. But I'm ok sharing my choice and why I made it so please respect mine as well. Figured it wouldn't hurt to hear from someone whose fought with a lot of anger these vaccines and rules..
FYI I am still in support of letting things open up freely and let people make their own choices of how they want to proceed with their own health.
Sorry if this isn't written very well. I've had a long night getting stuff done around the hosue.
I had zero plans to get it until I had a doctors appointment today with my regular doctor. This guy has been very very good to me. He's done some things for me 15 other doctors couldn't figure out or refuse to treat properly. I sincerily owe this guy for a lot of the health and happiness I got back in my life in the last few years. He's not perfect, but I do have a lot of respect for him and I've known his family for 14 years. Infact he and his wife have invited me and my family over for drinks several times over the last 14 years.
Either way, we had a very blunt off the record talk. He explained how the vaccines work and admitted to all their short comings etc. He said originial covid was actually a joke in terms of how bad it was to get, but the variants like Delta are not even close to the origianl covid. He said the new variants, delta being the worst right now will literally attack every body organ and system.
He told me of a 30 year old guy a couple days ago got covid and was dead within 48 hours due to total organ shut down. He had no other risk factors. They worked on keeping him alive for 5 hours here, before air lifting him to the big city. And they couldn't do anything for him.. total organ failure. He wasn't vaccinated.
He said its not a lie that the ICU beds are stuffed right now. People are dying who shouldn't because there's no room. He didn't paint it like a doomesday scenario, but he told me what he sees with his own eyes. Yes, if you get a ICU bed you'll have a much better chance of living if you get a severe case, but the ICU beds are full and its not even full flue season yet.
What really hit home was he told me there are countries who are trying to create in the lab all the possible variants that covid CAN turn into. And he said they have discovered some variants that they predict have extremly high mortality rates.
He kept repeating to me that original covid really was a joke in terms of how deadly it was.
Is death rare for covid? Yes, but he gave me the numbers of the odds you have of getting a severe case with the new variants compared to the odds of having a severe reaction to the vaccines.
About the vaccines, he said they are not real vaccines. They know this, but they do give your immune system a boost to fight covid specfically. He told me the odds I get a bad case of covid comapred to a bad reaction to the shot are not worth declining the shot. His whole family is vaccinated and he himself has just gotten his 3rd short since they know the immunity they provide is not long lasting. He also told me its false that the vaccination prevents your body building antibodies to covid if you get covid while vaccinated. He said your body will still make those anti bodies even fully vaccinated.
I asked if I had covid previsoualy, why get the shot? And he said if I had the origianl covid or early variants they do boost your ability to fight the variants, but the variant potentials can be quite severe so that natural antibodies help, but he said its still a good idea to get the shots.
I asked "if we all went and got covid the first go round, would all these variants still exist".. He said more than likely yes.. My understanding from what he said is that the world just needs to get covid and get all the antibodies to covid and its variants.. It's going to take a long time for this to happen without a true vaccine. But getting the current vaccines will help us deal with things until that happens.
He really did help me understand how nasty the delta variant is and how many people its taken out. He admitted the shots are not 100% gurrentee of anything, but he said there's nothing to loose in getting them, but lots to gain. He did acknowledge some people are dying from the shots.
I asked will we ever get a real vaccines using the dead virus that's actually a vaccine? He said yes that's the plan, but its not going very well and when they do make it, to get it out to 8.5 billion people will take time.. And right now its not a good idea to risk it in his opinion.
To be perfectly clear, you guys know me lol.. I do not think anyone has the right to force you to take any vaccination. I fully support you for not getting it if that's your choice. This doctor has the same mentality, but he spoke to me like a person not like a patient and took the time to present to me his opinion along with the things he knows from his proffession. It was quite the conversation between two people, not a doctor and a patient.
I did not get it to appease the government or my employeer. I did not get it to have "normal" back. I am one of the last people who would have gotten it for those reasons.
I support and respect anyone's choice.. But I'm ok sharing my choice and why I made it so please respect mine as well. Figured it wouldn't hurt to hear from someone whose fought with a lot of anger these vaccines and rules..
FYI I am still in support of letting things open up freely and let people make their own choices of how they want to proceed with their own health.
Sorry if this isn't written very well. I've had a long night getting stuff done around the hosue.
