Positive Masculinizing Effects of Steroids

Sauced

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So I've been dabbling with gear for a little over a year now and I've noticed a few positive effects as far as androgenic sides go.

1) My voice is deeper but also more easily cracked. It doesn't have near as much range to it but I'd consider it relatively deep at this point.

2) I went from essentially a hairless cat to having hair all over the front side of my body and going from having pubes for facial hair to a full, thicc beard.

3) My dick size has always varied a lot depending on the day, etc. It varies by roughly an inch so I don't really care to measure things but since hopping on tren my girl says it seems like I'm getting bigger.

Anyone know if it's common or even possible within the current scientific literature to see such changes in one starting AAS at 27 years old well after puberty?

Have any of you noticed any positive masculinizing effects?

What were they?

What was the timeline?

What gear caused it?

How old were you?

Why do you think it worked out in such a way for you specifically while not so much most people?

Also between fucking 2-4x a day and apparently growing, anyone got any advice to give the poor girl a chance to heal up while still getting it? Positions or whatever.
 
You're still just a hairless pup. Wait until you have a full coat of hair front, back, sides, shoulders, arms, and neck, all connected into what looks like a thick sweater that makes you look like a gorilla.

If I don't use clippers to manscape regularly animal control would tranq me and I'd wake up on a ship in a crate on it's way to the Congo

My voice seems to be the same and I don't think Tren has done anything for my dick size, but it certainly has done a lot for what I've been using it for. If you want to bump up your dick size get a Bathmate.

As for your woman, you will break her if you dont give her a break. 2 to 4 a day will wear her out so see if you can pop one off yourself in the shower here and there, or see if she'd be cool with you having other friends to play with as that's more fun than ol' righty and the stranger. Good luck with that.
 
I started PEDs at 24 & am now 27. I could grow minimal body or facial hair before starting. Now I shave my torso regularly and have a full blown beard. My face has also aged 10 years older in my opinion. I’m unsure how much has to do with PEDs vs just getting older. I think a lot of it is PEDs considering my brother who is 2 years older looks quite a bit more youthful than me.
 
So I've been dabbling with gear for a little over a year now and I've noticed a few positive effects as far as androgenic sides go.

1) My voice is deeper but also more easily cracked. It doesn't have near as much range to it but I'd consider it relatively deep at this point.

2) I went from essentially a hairless cat to having hair all over the front side of my body and going from having pubes for facial hair to a full, thicc beard.

3) My dick size has always varied a lot depending on the day, etc. It varies by roughly an inch so I don't really care to measure things but since hopping on tren my girl says it seems like I'm getting bigger.

Anyone know if it's common or even possible within the current scientific literature to see such changes in one starting AAS at 27 years old well after puberty?

Have any of you noticed any positive masculinizing effects?

What were they?

What was the timeline?

What gear caused it?

How old were you?

Why do you think it worked out in such a way for you specifically while not so much most people?

Also between fucking 2-4x a day and apparently growing, anyone got any advice to give the poor girl a chance to heal up while still getting it? Positions or whatever.
@Sauced - keep in mind I am giving you an opinion and not picking on you, but of course androgens give you androgenic side effects. Most are not wanted.
As for your voice changing at 27, I find that odd but everyone is different. You could have been deficient in test and never developed like most do over the years of puberty, that was not a shot do so don't take it that way. No idea - never noticed any change with decades of on and off usage.

It is normal to become hairier as you use steroids. Often people lose the hair on their head and moves to the places you don't want it. Most don't want a hairy back, shoulders or arms. My facial hair growth increased, I could always grow a beard but it just increased the rate of my hair growth. In a day I have to shave - not a choice in the least, in the past I could get away with EOD and it didn't look unprofessional when I had to dress to impress with customers out of respect.

As far as measuring your dick daily - anyone who does this I suggest taking your BP daily instead and forget about the dong. I have no idea what to say other than this is a very odd. Men should stop worrying about if their pecker is 6 or 9 inches and if they want to impress a woman work on foreplay, talk to them and find out what makes them orgasm and concentrate on doing what gets them off - pending you give a shit and it is a relationship. You can't grow your dong an inch in a day but yes more blood can flow to your 'member' and you are more erect/full so it could feel larger because it is. To some degree size matters and that comes from open convos with long term women I dated. As for guys born with a micro penisI have empathy for them and they can use all the suction devices they want and do their stretching exercises or whatever and it won't make much of a difference. The only difference that will make any major difference is surgical. Anyway, most women I dated and cared about, we were very open about sex, what worked for each other, role play, what positions/toys are best etc.

Androgens made hair shed more on the scalp a little, and body hair grow faster and show up in places sparingly like my shoulders where I never had any. This is pretty common and there is no time line - it took years of use and I am a light user. Suspect if your dim or listening to the wrong people and taking harsh compounds and high doses before you learn to eat and train or just started training, the more you take the more androgenic effects you will see. Albeit not always accurate, there are graphs you can find for anabolic vs androgenic numbers/ratios on the google in a minute.

You comment, "Also between fucking 2-4x a day and apparently growing, anyone got any advice to give the poor girl a chance to heal up while still getting it? Positions or whatever."

Have you asked the poor girl if she wants to be banged 2-4 times a day? If not - don't be selfish and either break up if the sex drive isn't the same and it is important, or take care of it yourself some of the time. Also - you are not growing from taking steroids if you are referring to your penis. Your balls will shrink up, has no difference on the size of your penis other than blood flow and desire. If you need to have sex with her 4 times a day and she is sore and your asking about better positions - nope, don't have any. I would talk with her pending you guys are serious and you care enough. Lubrication will help if it is an odd occurrence but if this an ongoing issue - talk to her and ask her what positions don't hurt or annoy her.

Good luck getting your 'issue' sorted out.
 
It's hilarious I know.


Has your range changed significantly? I can't fake voices or accents for shit now without sounding like a 12 year old who's nuts just dropped.
I used to do Karokee all the time. Beat just sitting there getting drunk with nothing to do. I had won numerous bar tabs and such when they held contests.

I would sing, Led Zeppelin, Megadeth, Judas Preist, Bon Jovi and so on. I cannot imitate most of those guys anymore, especially Zeppelin.
I cannot hit the super high notes anymore.

But I had pretty much stopped karokee once I started to run gear, so I never really got to practice or train with the way my voice is now. Likely could have sang other artists instead that I could not do before.

Over time my voice stabilized, but at first it was like how your is now. You will need to relearn how to do the accents and stuff. Just practice lots like you did before.

So in all reality, since I don’t do it for fun anymore, nor do I make money off of it, it doesn’t matter to me that it changed.
 
The banging 2-4 times a day thing, I don’t know what you can do besides more lube and don’t rail her so hard.

My very first girlfriend loved sex, we dated a year and in a week likely had sex at least 20 times. Some times I’d be so raw (I’d have blisters on the shaft), do it anyways because she would say, “let’s fuck on the freezer”. Some days we would wake up, have sex, go to sleep, wake up, sex go to sleep and do that all day (when her parents were out of town). I have never had a girl who wanted it so much ever since. Too bad besides sex, we really didn’t get along very well, it lasted a year, then even after we broke up, we would get together once in a while just for sex (we would both have another partner)

And unless you dick is 10”, who wouldn’t want a larger one, lol. I’m above average (isn’t 5” average, fuck that is small, sorry dudes with 5” peckers) and even being a fair bit bigger than average there is still certain positions I’d like to do that I can’t because it pops out if you get too carried away.

Now on the flip side, you gotta be careful you don’t hurt her in certain positions as well.

I never found gear to make it grow permenantly, but the extra blood flow (especially if you mix cialis and viagra) for sure increases size, more than enough that I need to be careful not to hurt my wife, but when your dick is as hard as a plastic dildo, you can hit spots and so on far better and woman really appreciate that, lol.

My thought it’s not so much that it got bigger, but that it’s so hard that they or you can grind it on certain spots better than when it’s softer and that’s what they enjoy.
 
The banging 2-4 times a day thing, I don’t know what you can do besides more lube and don’t rail her so hard.

My very first girlfriend loved sex, we dated a year and in a week likely had sex at least 20 times. Some times I’d be so raw (I’d have blisters on the shaft), do it anyways because she would say, “let’s fuck on the freezer”. Some days we would wake up, have sex, go to sleep, wake up, sex go to sleep and do that all day (when her parents were out of town). I have never had a girl who wanted it so much ever since. Too bad besides sex, we really didn’t get along very well, it lasted a year, then even after we broke up, we would get together once in a while just for sex (we would both have another partner)

And unless you dick is 10”, who wouldn’t want a larger one, lol. I’m above average (isn’t 5” average, fuck that is small, sorry dudes with 5” peckers) and even being a fair bit bigger than average there is still certain positions I’d like to do that I can’t because it pops out if you get too carried away.

Now on the flip side, you gotta be careful you don’t hurt her in certain positions as well.

I never found gear to make it grow permenantly, but the extra blood flow (especially if you mix cialis and viagra) for sure increases size, more than enough that I need to be careful not to hurt my wife, but when your dick is as hard as a plastic dildo, you can hit spots and so on far better and woman really appreciate that, lol.

My thought it’s not so much that it got bigger, but that it’s so hard that they or you can grind it on certain spots better than when it’s softer and that’s what they enjoy.
Hey! Not small, anal friendly. I'm not sure who on here I got that from. 🤣 Haha

As far as gear's effects on me? Hmm I had a full thick beard at around 23? Chest hair too and the rest as I got a little older, so I was already pretty virle beforehand. I started doing cycles right before I turned 27 years old.

Anyhow, the only thing I really noticed was my face muscles changed, around the jaw in particular the muscles are much thicker. But I'm also bigger overall, i assume it only makes sense for them to grow proportionately with the rest of the body.
 
I brought this up in a post a long time ago. They took testosterone and derived it into higher analobic ratios but no one ever made higher androgenic ones. It would be interesting if they ever did but also almost pointless. I thought of it watching a star is born with Bradley Cooper. In it he injects test or something to hell keep his voice low.
 
I would wonder if something like that could be used cosmetically by men with micro penises or high pitch voices etc.
 
I brought this up in a post a long time ago. They took testosterone and derived it into higher analobic ratios but no one ever made higher androgenic ones. It would be interesting if they ever did but also almost pointless. I thought of it watching a star is born with Bradley Cooper. In it he injects test or something to hell keep his voice low.
I mean if you go by the old anabolic:androgenic ratios people go by then there is. I think tren is 5 times more androgenic than test according to those findings from what i can remember.
 
i’m naturally hypogonadal and started trt over a year ago + quite a few cycles under my belt. my shitty facial hair grows faster but still shitty and my dick actually works now lol. where are my masculine effects?
 
I started PEDs at 24 & am now 27. I could grow minimal body or facial hair before starting. Now I shave my torso regularly and have a full blown beard. My face has also aged 10 years older in my opinion. I’m unsure how much has to do with PEDs vs just getting older. I think a lot of it is PEDs considering my brother who is 2 years older looks quite a bit more youthful than me.
Yeah I definitely look older now. Hard to say if it's the beard though.

@Sauced - keep in mind I am giving you an opinion and not picking on you, but of course androgens give you androgenic side effects. Most are not wanted.
As for your voice changing at 27, I find that odd but everyone is different. You could have been deficient in test and never developed like most do over the years of puberty, that was not a shot do so don't take it that way. No idea - never noticed any change with decades of on and off usage.

You don't gotta tip toe dude. The tren rage ain't bad. I don't have a problem with you anyway, you've generally been helpful.

As far as measuring your dick daily - anyone who does this I suggest taking your BP daily instead and forget about the dong. I have no idea what to say other than this is a very odd. Men should stop worrying about if their pecker is 6 or 9 inches and if they want to impress a woman work on foreplay, talk to them and find out what makes them orgasm and concentrate on doing what gets them off - pending you give a shit and it is a relationship. You can't grow your dong an inch in a day but yes more blood can flow to your 'member' and you are more erect/full so it could feel larger because it is. To some degree size matters and that comes from open convos with long term women I dated. As for guys born with a micro penisI have empathy for them and they can use all the suction devices they want and do their stretching exercises or whatever and it won't make much of a difference. The only difference that will make any major difference is surgical. Anyway, most women I dated and cared about, we were very open about sex, what worked for each other, role play, what positions/toys are best etc.
The dick obsession is sad. Too many dudes can't satisfy a woman and they wanna blame shit they think is outa their control.. I'm just tryna not get too much bigger or I won't be able to have sex with the gf whenever I want. So I'm trying to determine if this is extra blood flow or if its actual permanent or semi permanent growth.

I'm naturally curious too. It's fascinating seeing this viarlization after puberty.

You comment, "Also between fucking 2-4x a day and apparently growing, anyone got any advice to give the poor girl a chance to heal up while still getting it? Positions or whatever."

Have you asked the poor girl if she wants to be banged 2-4 times a day? If not - don't be selfish and either break up if the sex drive isn't the same and it is important, or take care of it yourself some of the time. Also - you are not growing from taking steroids if you are referring to your penis. Your balls will shrink up, has no difference on the size of your penis other than blood flow and desire. If you need to have sex with her 4 times a day and she is sore and your asking about better positions - nope, don't have any. I would talk with her pending you guys are serious and you care enough. Lubrication will help if it is an odd occurrence but if this an ongoing issue - talk to her and ask her what positions don't hurt or annoy her.
Eh she's not super into it on the higher end but she's always down to make me happy kinda thing. Just trying being gentler lately.
Over time my voice stabilized, but at first it was like how your is now. You will need to relearn how to do the accents and stuff. Just practice lots like you did before.
Good to know, thank you!
Very common side effect when woman use aas
I said my dicks getting bigger too. Get outa Thailand and find yourself an actual woman.
 
I brought this up in a post a long time ago. They took testosterone and derived it into higher analobic ratios but no one ever made higher androgenic ones. It would be interesting if they ever did but also almost pointless. I thought of it watching a star is born with Bradley Cooper. In it he injects test or something to hell keep his voice low.
There are a handful that could be argued to be more androgenic than anabolic depending on whose research you show more respect to. I can't recall the names, it's been a while and they are not common in either our world or the medical pharmacy world either. Reasons be twofold at least.

First who here is look for more virializing effects? A low percentage I'm sure, just wanna be jacked. Second, in the medical field these mostly were/are used for predominately "female" problems as the majority of them (all?) have an effect on things like progesterone and progestin which makes them useful for abnormalities in those hormones which especially come into play with breast cancer. Even if a male was having issues with those better treatments are now available.

This whole ratio thing is built on shaky ground anyhow, no human data that I know of and how are we supposed to interpret what this means in real life application?

For example Test is the standard baseline at 100:100. Then you might see a list that says Tren is 500:500. I have no doubt that tren is more "powerful" than test but someone who is not up to speed on the subject might think those numbers mean that Tren will make/help one grow 5x as much muscle as Test which I do not believe that is the case ;)
 
Yeah I definitely look older now. Hard to say if it's the beard though.



You don't gotta tip toe dude. The tren rage ain't bad. I don't have a problem with you anyway, you've generally been helpful.


The dick obsession is sad. Too many dudes can't satisfy a woman and they wanna blame shit they think is outa their control.. I'm just tryna not get too much bigger or I won't be able to have sex with the gf whenever I want. So I'm trying to determine if this is extra blood flow or if its actual permanent or semi permanent growth.

I'm naturally curious too. It's fascinating seeing this viarlization after puberty.


Eh she's not super into it on the higher end but she's always down to make me happy kinda thing. Just trying being gentler lately.

Good to know, thank you!

I said my dicks getting bigger too. Get outa Thailand and find yourself an actual woman.
I highly doubt your penis is actually growing post puberty or you have any meaningful virilization for that matter.

But I will say, if you're interested in ear and ass hair growth run primo for 4-6 months, you're in for a treat.
 
There are a handful that could be argued to be more androgenic than anabolic depending on whose research you show more respect to. I can't recall the names, it's been a while and they are not common in either our world or the medical pharmacy world either. Reasons be twofold at least.

First who here is look for more virializing effects? A low percentage I'm sure, just wanna be jacked. Second, in the medical field these mostly were/are used for predominately "female" problems as the majority of them (all?) have an effect on things like progesterone and progestin which makes them useful for abnormalities in those hormones which especially come into play with breast cancer. Even if a male was having issues with those better treatments are now available.

This whole ratio thing is built on shaky ground anyhow, no human data that I know of and how are we supposed to interpret what this means in real life application?

For example Test is the standard baseline at 100:100. Then you might see a list that says Tren is 500:500. I have no doubt that tren is more "powerful" than test but someone who is not up to speed on the subject might think those numbers mean that Tren will make/help one grow 5x as much muscle as Test which I do not believe that is the case ;)
I don't think those ratios add up, 500:500 would still just be a 1:1 ratio in math because it's the same number. I think anyway but yea I did see that 500:500 writen on Google too. I just thought test was 1:1 and everything derived from it went higher anabolically from there.
 
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