Just a quick question. Does NPP have the same joint pain reduction properties as Deca? (ya I know it is more often then not just a temp relief from joint pain) II would think it should since the hormone is the same just the ester is different.
NPP vs Deca
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Yes - same drug, just different ester. Some people say NPP has less sides but I have no idea how if they are the same compound. I find them identical except NPP takes 4 days to impact my sex drive and deca takes 2 weeks. As for pain (joint pain reduction), it is about the same.
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I think some people say this and really mean, if experiencing sides, NPP will be out quicker, i agree, i do not see how. NPP does stick around for awhile if one does experience sides, not like test prop etc, the phenyl prop ester is a bit longer.
If you want joint pain relief without wrecking your pecker just run 40 mg of deca a week.
my joints feel like I’m 30 again. No pain when I lift heavy boxes above my head anymore.
yeah but thats not much movement...like 3 feet max right??
Ok you are an asshole, but correct, lol.
Well my order arrived. NPP for HCO, she has used it before and liked it. Deca for me though I wont be starting it for about 5-6 weeks until after my next blood work for my endo. In the mean time I will be doing my normal trt shot and topping it up with the prop for a while before I go down just to my trt shot. Once the blood work is done and I see the results, if good, I'll add in deca and up my test dosage a bit with some long esters. Obligatory stove picture
I've ran equal amounts of test and deca, 600mg each, in the past with no issues sex drive wise but as was mentioned we are all different
525 each npp and test with no problems. From reading about the experiences of people, I will also say that it definitely varies from person to person. I have never tried other ratios, I always like 1:1 ratios for two compounds because it’s the best way to find out what’s going on within and start tweaking things.
525mg npp!
How were the gains on a cycle like that
I dunno what it is if I go above 400 I am a fucking emotional mess
Started with 350 test p and 350 npp, went up to 525 each after 4 weeks. Maybe I should’ve given it 2 more weeks until I went up but the strength went through the roof, not much acne at all around the body (at that time I was not on Accutane but used an antibiotic for the pimples on my scalp). I gained muscle and stayed full all the time and dropped body fat (~3-4% if I had to guess) with around 3200 calories with low carbs (sweet potatoes only). I’m a small man at 5’7 and went up around 15-18 lbs in almost 10 weeks. Had to call it quits because I was trying to do powerlifting or at least try to get into it and ended up injuring myself (rotator cuff). I should also note that I hadn’t cycled in several years as is the case with me now...again, so a seasoned bodybuilder will probably see less pronounced results. Ended at 187lbs and had to stop lifting but the muscle stayed a while as I just put on fat, after a year or two I deflated but kept fluctuating with fat.
I felt amazing emotionally. I’m usually an emotional mess normally so it felt like I did not get angry at small things as I used to.
Ran aromasin at 25mg (gel caps couldn’t break) twice a week or 3 times if I got gyno symptoms, I already had gyno from puberty. After a year I got the surgery. Since I’ve been bald for a decade and got no tits, I can’t wait until I start pushing myself without AIs. I now want to add primo to it and go 24 weeks minimum.
Oh yeah, I did take caber twice a week at 1mg. I think the caber helped the mood and that’s what you might be missing. Prolactin and dopamine are inversely proportional so as one goes up, the other goes down. Postpartum depression is all about that if i remember correctly. I bet you already tried caber, so maybe the emotional fluctuations are an individual thing like erectile function on nandrolones.