I am getting ready to run a TRT+ blast this winter to add some mass, and i could use input from the knowledgeable members here.
I am in my late 40s, and have been on a TRT dose for about a decade now. I haven't run a "proper" cycle in 5 or 6 years. In the past I've run lots of different compounds, but never nandrolone. I am planning to run NPP this time.
I won't start until November, mostly because my in-laws are visiting next month and I don't want to be booked for murder if I get bad mental sides.
Alright, here's my plan:
I'm currently on 150/wk of test c. Just got labs done and everything is in healthy range. My E2 is sitting comfy at 73 pmol/L (20 pg).
Next week I'm going to increase to 200/wk and hold there, then get labs again in mid October. If E2 remains low and everything checks out, then I'll keep it there for the blast. Otherwise I'll drop back down to 150.
(Should I bother with 200 or just push to 250?)
I really want to manage E2, as i understand it can cause, or at least aggravate the sides on NPP.
Coming into November, I'm going to start at 100 NPP/wk, pinning mon/wed/fri. Week 2, increase to 200, week 3, increase again to 300 or 350. Ultimately I may go to 400. I want to keep test lower than NPP.
(Is that schedule too aggressive for increasing, should I give more time to assess sides after each bump up? Am i being too cautious and wasting valuable time by titrating up?)
If I'm tolerating it well, then I'll continue to run these doses for 12 weeks ideally, or 16 if I think there are still gains to be made and bloods have been good (I'll be getting bloods throughout, every 4 weeks or as needed if things go sideways).
That's really it, nothing crazy. Since this will be my first run of NPP, I want to take it relatively easy. I've run 19nor once before: low dose tren a, which didn't do much for me. I was too conservative that time.
The sides which scare me the most are: hair loss and gyno (and LVH of course). I currently take 0.5mg fin every day, but I understand that can aggravate hair loss on nandrolone. I've got some ru58841 on hand, which I will transition to before adding the NPP (maybe 2 weeks before to let my 5ar get back to baseline). I got on fin during my last cycle which had me shedding, and I've just stayed on to protect my hair at the TRT dose. I'm not super worried about shedding from ~200 mg of test, though; takes about 600+ to start hitting my hair. I also use nizoral shampoo once a week (more often dries out my hair and makes it brittle).
I have a good stash of ancillaries:
Caber (pharma)
Prami
Arimadex
Aromasin
Nolva
One last thing I've been considering is: adding in low dose primo, maybe 100mg/wk. However, I've heard it will nuke hair, and I also worry about letting E2 get too low since I'll be on such a low dose of test. Thoughts on that? I've never run primo either, so I would bring it in later once I'm happy with everything else.
Oh, I'll be taking p5p and omega. Should I add liver support (milk thistle, nac, tudca) even without orals?
Appreciate any advice/critiques you can offer.
Cheers!
I am in my late 40s, and have been on a TRT dose for about a decade now. I haven't run a "proper" cycle in 5 or 6 years. In the past I've run lots of different compounds, but never nandrolone. I am planning to run NPP this time.
I won't start until November, mostly because my in-laws are visiting next month and I don't want to be booked for murder if I get bad mental sides.
Alright, here's my plan:
I'm currently on 150/wk of test c. Just got labs done and everything is in healthy range. My E2 is sitting comfy at 73 pmol/L (20 pg).
Next week I'm going to increase to 200/wk and hold there, then get labs again in mid October. If E2 remains low and everything checks out, then I'll keep it there for the blast. Otherwise I'll drop back down to 150.
(Should I bother with 200 or just push to 250?)
I really want to manage E2, as i understand it can cause, or at least aggravate the sides on NPP.
Coming into November, I'm going to start at 100 NPP/wk, pinning mon/wed/fri. Week 2, increase to 200, week 3, increase again to 300 or 350. Ultimately I may go to 400. I want to keep test lower than NPP.
(Is that schedule too aggressive for increasing, should I give more time to assess sides after each bump up? Am i being too cautious and wasting valuable time by titrating up?)
If I'm tolerating it well, then I'll continue to run these doses for 12 weeks ideally, or 16 if I think there are still gains to be made and bloods have been good (I'll be getting bloods throughout, every 4 weeks or as needed if things go sideways).
That's really it, nothing crazy. Since this will be my first run of NPP, I want to take it relatively easy. I've run 19nor once before: low dose tren a, which didn't do much for me. I was too conservative that time.
The sides which scare me the most are: hair loss and gyno (and LVH of course). I currently take 0.5mg fin every day, but I understand that can aggravate hair loss on nandrolone. I've got some ru58841 on hand, which I will transition to before adding the NPP (maybe 2 weeks before to let my 5ar get back to baseline). I got on fin during my last cycle which had me shedding, and I've just stayed on to protect my hair at the TRT dose. I'm not super worried about shedding from ~200 mg of test, though; takes about 600+ to start hitting my hair. I also use nizoral shampoo once a week (more often dries out my hair and makes it brittle).
I have a good stash of ancillaries:
Caber (pharma)
Prami
Arimadex
Aromasin
Nolva
One last thing I've been considering is: adding in low dose primo, maybe 100mg/wk. However, I've heard it will nuke hair, and I also worry about letting E2 get too low since I'll be on such a low dose of test. Thoughts on that? I've never run primo either, so I would bring it in later once I'm happy with everything else.
Oh, I'll be taking p5p and omega. Should I add liver support (milk thistle, nac, tudca) even without orals?
Appreciate any advice/critiques you can offer.
Cheers!
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