First cycle

Bigbear

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My first cycle ever I started test e at 400mg/week what should I start my deca at? And what week should I stop deca if test is going for 12 weeks
 
You using NPP or deca?

12 weeks is probs a bit too short if using deca, think you'd also want to stop the deca a few weeks before the test.
 
Like pre ct or post ct? I have started anything just test but after I'd plan on a post treatment for sure, what's the issue that I should expect?
 
Like pre ct or post ct? I have started anything just test but after I'd plan on a post treatment for sure, what's the issue that I should expect?
How old are you?
Don’t run deca if you havnt yet. You will gain just as well first time on test only. Deca shuts you down hard. Will be a lot tougher to recover from. Plus you need to run a 21 weeks cycle start to finish for the deca to be effective. If you want to add something, get some dbol, when you buy some hcg and nolva for your pct. did you buy some aromasin already?
 
How old are you?
Don’t run deca if you havnt yet. You will gain just as well first time on test only. Deca shuts you down hard. Will be a lot tougher to recover from. Plus you need to run a 21 weeks cycle start to finish for the deca to be effective. If you want to add something, get some dbol, when you buy some hcg and nolva for your pct. did you buy some aromasin already?

Pretty much this.

I'd say Anavar instead of Dbol
Or maybe winnie.

But a nice oral finisher instead of Deca.

Deca makes zero sense if you PCT
 
How old are you?
Don’t run deca if you havnt yet. You will gain just as well first time on test only. Deca shuts you down hard. Will be a lot tougher to recover from. Plus you need to run a 21 weeks cycle start to finish for the deca to be effective. If you want to add something, get some dbol, when you buy some hcg and nolva for your pct. did you buy some aromasin already?
I'm in my early 30s my buddy who's 50 has did his first cycle on test e deca and oral anadrol he said he liked his results so that's what I went for. Hes not cycling though just staying on it. My friend who helped me out advised deca or tren for first time but I'm so lean already I went for mass
 
I'm in my early 30s my buddy who's 50 has did his first cycle on test e deca and oral anadrol he said he liked his results so that's what I went for. Hes not cycling though just staying on it. My friend who helped me out advised deca or tren for first time but I'm so lean already I went for mass
You want mass dbol is a much better choice imo. But hey run what you got.
And tren first cycle is horrible advice.
 
Thanks man.
I don’t know everything, but have pretty much tried a bit of everything at way too high of a dose, lol.
So if you have any questions ask. Plus if I don’t know, someone on here will. A lot of guys with decades of experience on here, not just a 6 year noob like me.
 
I don’t know everything, but have pretty much tried a bit of everything at way too high of a dose, lol.
So if you have any questions ask. Plus if I don’t know, someone on here will. A lot of guys with decades of experience on here, not just a 6 year noob like me.
Thanks man I apreciate that
 
 
Trust me don't run deca your first cycle, it takes 16+ weeks before you will look in the mirror and go ok it's finally working.
Not only that but while it takes a long ass time to kick in, the sides and every negative thing about it will start hitting you 3-4 weeks.

Unless you have caber or prami don't touch deca.
Deca even if your estrogen is controlled it can and will give you floppy fuck cock.
you can use Cialis to fix that but your progesterone will be fucked so you won't be able to cum for like an hour or worse.
While you might think ohhhhh hell yah drop some Cialis and wreck that pussy for a good hour or more.
19nors will give you smoker lungs In comparison to cardio ability.
When deca finally hits me a flight of stairs will have me out of breath.
So you will be basically out of breath & dieing of a heart attack, your heart will be beating so vigorously it will feel like it's trying to jump out of your chest.
all while you won't be able to cum and when you finally go soft blue balls will take over and yup good luck trying do anything once that has you crippled.

I love deca nothing bulks you out more, you also won't see shit running it at 500/600mg week sorry I also have AI's, Cialis, caber on hand.

Trust us save it for a rainy and very for day.
NPP is same thing and has all the same sides but everything hits you by the second week
 
Trust me don't run deca your first cycle, it takes 16+ weeks before you will look in the mirror and go ok it's finally working.
Not only that but while it takes a long ass time to kick in, the sides and every negative thing about it will start hitting you 3-4 weeks.

Unless you have caber or prami don't touch deca.
Deca even if your estrogen is controlled it can and will give you floppy fuck cock.
you can use Cialis to fix that but your progesterone will be fucked so you won't be able to cum for like an hour or worse.
While you might think ohhhhh hell yah drop some Cialis and wreck that pussy for a good hour or more.
19nors will give you smoker lungs In comparison to cardio ability.
When deca finally hits me a flight of stairs will have me out of breath.
So you will be basically out of breath & dieing of a heart attack, your heart will be beating so vigorously it will feel like it's trying to jump out of your chest.
all while you won't be able to cum and when you finally go soft blue balls will take over and yup good luck trying do anything once that has you crippled.

I love deca nothing bulks you out more, you also won't see shit running it at 500/600mg week sorry I also have AI's, Cialis, caber on hand.

Trust us save it for a rainy and very for day.
NPP is same thing and has all the same sides but everything hits you by the second week

Lol yeah
I fucking love NPP
But I'm just useless by the end of my run, sucking sir after going up the stairs.

Worth it!!!

But not for newbies lol
 
I'm in my early 30s my buddy who's 50 has did his first cycle on test e deca and oral anadrol he said he liked his results so that's what I went for. Hes not cycling though just staying on it. My friend who helped me out advised deca or tren for first time but I'm so lean already I went for mass

Based on what you're saying here, I'm gonna go ahead and recommend you stop taking advice from this friend
 
You know I didn’t even pay attention that he advised tren and deca first cycle. Poor guy likely would have been lactating, lol.

That caught my attention, but even without the tren(!), test + deca + drol is a heavy cycle for anybody. Certainly not something I'd recommend to a first-timer. The fact that his buddy "doesn't cycle and just stays on" tells me he probably isn't thinking too hard about @Jerbear's recovery. You don't want to become an HRT patient after your first cycle brother.

If your diet & training are on point, you should be able to blow up on 400 mg/wk of test alone. Maybe throw in some dbol or tbol for the first 3 weeks before the test kicks in. Run an 8 - 10 wk cycle and see how you respond. Don't jeopardize your health because you want the whole enchilada right away. 😉
 
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