Big Trial Reassures on Heart Safety of Testosterone in Men

Damn transdermal vehicle.

My god, strong correlation with fractures. That’s a bit alarming considering the high physical activity that we keep in our lives as enthusiastic bodybuilders.
 
Damn transdermal vehicle.

My god, strong correlation with fractures. That’s a bit alarming considering the high physical activity that we keep in our lives as enthusiastic bodybuilders.

Pretty much by coincidence I just booked a bone density test last week. That finding is very interesting and as it says unexpected. I'll likely report back here after the test next month
 
I agree WTF......
@Rolls roydz too,
I poked around at this a bit. The extensive list of variables I saw would have a huge influence on these results. For example without going deep it looks like a lot of the bone related stuff is based on elderly men. I'm hoping that it's not a good comparison to enthusiastic bb's. It's true that there are some old farts on CB but not too many in the 70 - >80 groups.
Despite however well it may or may not compare I hope that the serious lifter negates the negatives to a large degree by the simply eating well and consistently putting controlled loads onto our bones as those are both key factors in maintaining and achieving bone strength.
 
Damn transdermal vehicle.

My god, strong correlation with fractures. That’s a bit alarming considering the high physical activity that we keep in our lives as enthusiastic bodybuilders.
I skimmed the article, thanks for posting @Bagua. I don't know anything about test making your bones weaker, I have read many articles about Primo making your bones stronger. Exercise in general will increase your bone density tests. I know a lot of elderly people who walk/run and nothing else. They are in their 70's and have the bones from the waist down of a 40 year old but their upper body bone density is low or they are more apt to have a fracture or injury confirmed by a bone density test.
The docs prescribe supplements like calcium/magnesium/vit D. The odd thing is not one doc that I know of (I only know 6 people personally who went through this and they are between 40 and their late 70's) told them to include weight training albeit low weight and increase slowly especially with all the studies showing the improvement in life/happiness in the elderly who lift weights. Even swimming provides resistance and will help strengthen your bones.
I suspect it is a product of low bone density / no exercise to becoming more active and with that activity it brings falls, and exercise fractures from weights/other forms of exercise. Maybe someone else has a different perspective and I am very interested.
My friend who is 52 never exercises, is overweight but not obese, and is sore all the time. She fell twice - just minor falls and had two fractures. This was considered abnormal as she just lost her balance and it was a minor fall catching herself and stopping the fall with her hands. She finally had a bone density test and it was determined she has the bone density of someone 20-30 years older that she is. No surprise to me - she is lazy and eats too much for someone who never exercises.

The first thing that came to mind was what @Rolls roydz said if I understood what you said correct - if you were truly low test and got a prescription you may recall the increase in sexual desire, ability to exercise, well being etc. - if you had minor depression and couldn't heal properly before. The years of low test then put you in a normal range and then throw in exercise (pending it isn't something light like swimming) - I would be surprised if there weren't more injuries including fractures.
I did not read this word for word - I admit I am half asleep so feel free to correct my comments.
 
Yeah. I can’t access the full text to see how the statistics were calculated. But the thing is, the sample has a wide age range and the placebo didn’t have the problem. It doesn’t look circumstantial at all 🥲, it is too high the percentage.

It is contradictory because fundamental knowledge and literature says and clearly explains how testosterone increases bone density. This is very interesting.

I mean I am not scared of breaking one my bones but my curiosity is totally 💯 with this.
 
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