How would a test/primo/deca cycle go?

Jabroni

Jabroni

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Just asking if anybody’s tried this and what type of results they saw. I’m considering it for my next run during the late fall/winter.
Would be running most likely doses around this split into Monday/Thursday injections.

Test cyp- 750 weekly (maybe less)
Primo enth- 200mg weekly (maybe more)
Deca - 450 weekly.
Daily cialis

Also considering lowering the test a bit as from what I’ve read the primo itself can increase FT with a lower dose of test.
 
Jabroni said:
Just asking if anybody’s tried this and what type of results they saw. I’m considering it for my next run during the late fall/winter.
Would be running most likely doses around this split into Monday/Thursday injections.

Test cyp- 750 weekly (maybe less)
Primo enth- 200mg weekly (maybe more)
Deca - 450 weekly.
Daily cialis

Also considering lowering the test a bit as from what I’ve read the primo itself can increase FT with a lower dose of test.
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Jabroni said:
Just asking if anybody’s tried this and what type of results they saw. I’m considering it for my next run during the late fall/winter.
Would be running most likely doses around this split into Monday/Thursday injections.

Test cyp- 750 weekly (maybe less)
Primo enth- 200mg weekly (maybe more)
Deca - 450 weekly.
Daily cialis

Also considering lowering the test a bit as from what I’ve read the primo itself can increase FT with a lower dose of test.
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I did a cycle like this, but my dosages were vastly different.

200-250 test, 500-550 primo, 600-650 deca. I pinned EOD.

The low test kept my estrogen down. Which kept my prolactin in check. I feel ok with lowish e2, others may not.

I had no deca related side effects. The DHT from the primo was needed to offset the DHN from the deca, which can cause a lot of libido problems for guys.

These ratios aren’t that popular, but it kept any negative side effects away and I had a successful cycle. I’ve ran a nearly identical cycle with NPP, and I much preferred that to deca, other than the pinning volume.
 
I’m trying to keep it to just 2 pins per week. But yea I had the idea of running the primo to mitigate any unfavourable conditions with running a high/moderate test to deca ratios. @4_horsemen would you change those doses if you were to run that cycle again? The high primo with the lower test maybe would you bring them to more equal dosages on a future run
 
Jabroni said:
I’m trying to keep it to just 2 pins per week. But yea I had the idea of running the primo to mitigate any unfavourable conditions with running a high/moderate test to deca ratios. @4_horsemen would you change those doses if you were to run that cycle again? The high primo with the lower test maybe would you bring them to more equal dosages on a future run
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I really don’t see the need to increase the test, at least for me. I know I am in the minority running test low, but it works for me and I didn't have any sides.

A lot of guys who run high test and high deca end up with ED issues and gyno. I let deca and test be the primary builders. I don’t feel the need to increase the test; I am getting enough e2 from the test and deca, so that it’s not slammed into the ground from primo.
 
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Jabroni said:
Just asking if anybody’s tried this and what type of results they saw. I’m considering it for my next run during the late fall/winter.
Would be running most likely doses around this split into Monday/Thursday injections.

Test cyp- 750 weekly (maybe less)
Primo enth- 200mg weekly (maybe more)
Deca - 450 weekly.
Daily cialis

Also considering lowering the test a bit as from what I’ve read the primo itself can increase FT with a lower dose of test.
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Test deca var is my favorite cycle to run. This be about the same as that.
I like around 750 test, 250 deca and 20-40 var.
 
I assume this would be very close to a test mast NPP cycle? Not to derail the thread but all else being equal what would be the biggest difference between this cycle with primo as opposed to with mast?
 
backintime said:
I assume this would be very close to a test mast NPP cycle? Not to derail the thread but all else being equal what would be the biggest difference between this cycle with primo as opposed to with mast?
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Primo =/= in terms of estrogen control, for most.

All of us are different. Mast acts more like a “serm” for me, versus primo is more like an “ai”.

YMMV
 
backintime said:
I assume this would be very close to a test mast NPP cycle? Not to derail the thread but all else being equal what would be the biggest difference between this cycle with primo as opposed to with mast?
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For one primo has way less potential for sides than mast.

Primo and test is my fav in my late 50s. I roll deca in for hips and knees at low dose with no issues. Weekly 250 test cyp 200 primo 180 deca is this old mans tried and true mini blast. 14 weeks drop the deca 20-24 weeks drop primo. Just 150 test for 3 or 4 months. Often I will run bpc-157 and or MK weekdays those months. I improve very nicely with this regiment and feel fucking fantastic.

Would be interested to know the longest members have run primo at moderate doses.
 
For me I love high test cycles, and find I respond better to test than most other compounds. The deca is a worry for the ED risk, but I’ve also always wanted to run a hefty dose of both test and deca (500-800 of each) with a DHT .

Gyno has never been in the cards for me thankfully, knock on wood. Even with a gram of test and no AI. Fuck I know a few guys that permanently have to deal with that shit now. Might look good with a shirt on ; but look out on beach day lol.

A couple of them don’t even realize how bad it really does look on them. I believe they still think they have big pecs.
 
Jabroni said:
I’m thinking probably a longer run of 20-24 weeks ; then back down to TRT as prescribed
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IMO if you can make it to 24 weeks on a cycle, you likely aren’t pushing yourself hard enough training/food intake. Typically by week 16 I’m ready to shut it down, but I have pushed it to 20 weeks, especially with longer esters like decanoate. A week off training when your weight and progress are not progressing may help.
 
4_horsemen said:
IMO if you can make it to 24 weeks on a cycle, you likely aren’t pushing yourself hard enough training/food intake. Typically by week 16 I’m ready to shut it down, but I have pushed it to 20 weeks, especially with longer esters like decanoate. A week off training when your weight and progress are not progressing may help.
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I just wanna get as much of a clean bulk out of it as possible and have the time and health markers to give it a go
 
The issue right now is my guy is out of primo… and I’m leery about trying new labs. Especially some of the prices these days
 
Jabroni said:
Just asking if anybody’s tried this and what type of results they saw. I’m considering it for my next run during the late fall/winter.
Would be running most likely doses around this split into Monday/Thursday injections.

Test cyp- 750 weekly (maybe less)
Primo enth- 200mg weekly (maybe more)
Deca - 450 weekly.
Daily cialis

Also considering lowering the test a bit as from what I’ve read the primo itself can increase FT with a lower dose of test.
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I don't use doses remotely close to that high but I can tell you for certain, at least with me - TRT and 100-150 mg of Primo a week (takes weeks to a month) and my total test is high normal and my free test is 2-3 times more than the top of the range. I prefer Primo and it increases my sex drive and the only change from a hormone perspective is my FT is through the roof. It has no impact on my estrogen. I tried low dose deca 50-100 mg, 100 test, and 100 Primo before to see if Deca would leave my damn sex drive alone - Primo to balance it out. It kills it dead and nope - If anyone wonders my prolactin was right in the middle of the range of where it should be so it wasn't my prolactin.

I love Deca in low doses 1/3 of what you are talking about for strength and size but I might as well be dead below. No desire and ED drugs help perform but it is a miracle if I can get off.
No idea your height or weight when on TRT or an enhanced TRT like @Pippyhippy mentioned, but if I ever ran those doses for 6 months - almost a gram of test (don't think you need that much), 450 of deca and 200 mg of Primo or more, I would need a new wardrobe unless in a major deficit but wouldn't pick those compounds if I was trying to lean out. The first time I tried Deca at 150 mg on my TRT, in a few months I gained 15 lbs but nope didn't keep it all.

I have no concerns running Primo for 6 months or more at a low dose of 100 mg with my TRT. I feel better, sex drive is amazing, and my BP and blood markers do not change (excluding hormonal - free test).


If you don't mind me asking - what is the main goal? Are you large now and want to be bigger for a competition or 'just because as you mentioned clean bulk'. No judgement - your an adult and should do what you want. I mention lower dosages for myself with good results as I never blasted high doses so I respond well to lower doses.
 
4_horsemen said:
Primo =/= in terms of estrogen control, for most.

All of us are different. Mast acts more like a “serm” for me, versus primo is more like an “ai”.

YMMV
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So are you saying in your case that mast could help like reduce a gyno lump like a serm but primo reduces more of the estrogen before it becomes an issue and creates the lump?
 
Pippyhippy said:
For one primo has way less potential for sides than mast.

Primo and test is my fav in my late 50s. I roll deca in for hips and knees at low dose with no issues. Weekly 250 test cyp 200 primo 180 deca is this old mans tried and true mini blast. 14 weeks drop the deca 20-24 weeks drop primo. Just 150 test for 3 or 4 months. Often I will run bpc-157 and or MK weekdays those months. I improve very nicely with this regiment and feel fucking fantastic.

Would be interested to know the longest members have run primo at moderate doses.
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Yes I guess that makes sense. I guess in all the reading I've done of the two I have heard that primo is generally more side effect free and like, system friendly. Not that I've heard a lot of real bad about mast. Hair loss. Maybe oily skin and or a hit to cholesterol is mainly what I've heard about mast and even those aren't all guaranteed from my readings.
 
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