I would stay away
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I think you’ve made a good decision to stay away. Yes we all take risks with any of these labs. Anything is possible and can happen regardless of who your source is. Ultimately I’d like to think labs have the end users best interest in mind but I think I would be naive to believe that.
All that matters is you get well, feel better and sort out an option where hopefully this never happens to you or anyone else again.
All that matters is you get well, feel better and sort out an option where hopefully this never happens to you or anyone else again.
Just wanted to give a heads up I had another couple IVbags of antibiotics, and the infection has started to regress now, I have take home antibiotics and the doctor believes I am in the clear and should be back to 100% in 7-10 days. Luckily it never went necrotic.
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Swelling is down hardly red anymore size is maybe only 10% bigger than my other quad so it’s way better. Still painful to walk on but it looks pretty good.
I messaged the lab but they never responded. That’s all good though .
In my mind I’m thinking I probably just got a bad batch from them. What I’ve seen on the reviews they are generally a fairly decent supplier. I have nothing bad to say about them, I just won’t do business with them anymore but that’s a personal decision like I said , everyone makes mistakes . And this is one of the potential consequences to the live we chose, juicing. It’s an eye opener though because I thought it could never happen to me because I feel like I’m very careful . But hey I suppose it can happen to anyone and I gotta lock shit down a bit tighter.
Appreciate your concern bro
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It can happen to anyone brother.
I think you’re making a solid decision and just do your due diligence if staying in this game. I’ve been there brother and learned from my mistakes.
RigPig
Moderator
Good to hear things are getting back to normal, that’s definitely a scary scenario that everyone hopes they never have to experience. I’m glad you had enough balls to get your ass to a hospital and disclose the truth to your doctor.
Sounds like you’re a pretty level headed dude. This lab should be addressing the issue, but at least you’ve put out a PSA to warn others.
GDpharma
Active member
Ya I dealt with the issue. Shit happens with tops sometimes. I made it right. I also saw the pic, sent him a new one. I am always good like that. Now, I hear this guy got an infection and that sucks, but that doesn’t mean it was a direct result of the gear, and could have been anything. You could inject pharma test and have an issue. I’m not saying that this guy is lying about having an infection, I sure he’s not. That being said in 6 running this lab, and 4 years repping this lab I’ve only had one other complaint about this. Just saying. You can choose another lab if you like, that’s fine. I always make good and answer my emails daily, no matter what. Sorry that this happened to the guy and I hope he heals up soon.
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Harley00
The Rebel
Wow eh, you delt with it? How did you deal with it whats the batch numbers on the vial?you have batch numbers right?did you pull these vials from your stock, did you make anyone aware of your batch that could be contaminated ? Wouldn't this be standard protocol?
Good thing you sent him a new vial...shit happens i guess, is this the language that a proper professional lab uses? You've been hear since 2018 and you have like 2 reivews thats like a failure rate of 98% Theres alot of, i did this and i did that in your post and im always good like that
and it looks like pure bullshit. And very similar wording to another unprofessional lab i know of.Look i gave your lab the benefit of the doupt up top, i asked the op hey maybe it was just bad pinning or something like that. Too be clear iv never used you or delt with you, so i was being respectful, but hear goes 3 days by and no response from you?aside from this pathetic excuse of a response? This op was way nicer then most guys on hear, and didn't blast you, he was honest and this is the shit you come back with?ohh well pharma can do this too...... jesus fuck man.. take responsibility, 6 years you run this lab and 4 years reppin this lab maybe its time to retire. If the op isnt gonna rip you im sure as fak gonna because your response was a joke.
You didn't deal with shit. You think you did but you didn't handle the possibility of a quality control issue...ohh wait yeh you did u made it good just so everyone is clear guardian is all good now he made it good....
GDpharma
Active member
Yo man how much tren are you running? on here talking shit. I told the owner. Another guy I know bought the same batch of sust and he’s fine. Again I apologized and let the owner know. Why you’re on here trolling is beyond me. I could give two fucks about your opinion. Fucking forum tough guy lolWow eh, you delt with it? How did you deal with it whats the batch numbers on the vial?you have batch numbers right?did you pull these vials from your stock, did you make anyone aware of your batch that could be contaminated ? Wouldn't this be standard protocol?
Good thing you sent him a new vial...shit happens i guess, is this the language that a proper professional lab uses? You've been hear since 2018 and you have like 2 reivews thats like a failure rate of 98% Theres alot of, i did this and i did that in your post and im always good like that
Look i gave your lab the benefit of the doupt up top, i asked the op hey maybe it was just bad pinning or something like that. Too be clear iv never used you or delt with you, so i was being respectful, but hear goes 3 days by and no response from you?aside from this pathetic excuse of a response? This op was way nicer then most guys on hear, and didn't blast you, he was honest and this is the shit you come back with?ohh well pharma can do this too...... jesus fuck man.. take responsibility, 6 years you run this lab and 4 years reppin this lab maybe its time to retire. If the op isnt gonna rip you im sure as fak gonna because your response was a joke.
You didn't deal with shit. You think you did but you didn't handle the possibility of a quality control issue...ohh wait yeh you did u made it good just so everyone is clear guardian is all good now he made it good....
Harley00
The Rebel
Your burying yourself with these responses.
You let the owner no? lol sooo another guy you know is fine... so lets not address the potential contaminated gear on hear and pull the batch line? Its litterly a small price to pull a batch line to correct this from happening again but your just gonna let it slide eh, because you apologized and let the owner no.
Excatly!!!! That's evident you don't give a fuck from your first response. Well done
you had one job, come on hear give a statement be genuine and not act like a teenager. You fucked up on your response and im betting 90% of the people that read it will agree.What type of drugs are you on? Im not trolling you im calling you out on your shitty response to a quality control issue. Had your response not looked like it was written by a 15 year old id have probably said noithing.
Taureau
Administrator
I have been around a long time. In all those years I have seen it where a lab has had a bad batch. It's very rare but yes it can and has happened
Be aware labs brew in batches. All labs brew in batches. Some brew small batches. Some larger batches.
If one vial in a batch is bad. All vials in that batch are bad
And if all the vials in a batch are bad the internet bodybuilding forums would be flooded with guys reporting issues with that lab
I have some knowledge about this lab they brew decent size batches. Large enough that if the batch was bad we would hear from many guys
So fact is a guy got an infection. How or why he got it we will never know for sure. We can speculate but that gets us no where
I hope he recovers quickly I hate to see anyone get a bad infection
Be aware labs brew in batches. All labs brew in batches. Some brew small batches. Some larger batches.
If one vial in a batch is bad. All vials in that batch are bad
And if all the vials in a batch are bad the internet bodybuilding forums would be flooded with guys reporting issues with that lab
I have some knowledge about this lab they brew decent size batches. Large enough that if the batch was bad we would hear from many guys
So fact is a guy got an infection. How or why he got it we will never know for sure. We can speculate but that gets us no where
I hope he recovers quickly I hate to see anyone get a bad infection
Harley00
The Rebel
Hypothetically, if a labs not sealing there vials, and there stored in an area that is not controlled, and depending on how long the vials have sat for is it possible for bacteria or any paresetic creatures that are not visible to the eye to enter the vial, im just asking if its possible, if vials are not sealed, could this explain how some products could be contaminated and some are not, depending on the controlled room and the quality of the crimp.
I didn't discredit the lab above on the original ops message, i left room for error, because i do believe theres alot of error in this industry from the users.
But i do discredit the lab for there response to the situation, and your right 100% i agree we can't speculate that the gear could be bad.
But we don't need to speculate the professionalism of the lab when his responses look like they do, thats were they lost it for me, and thats why i replied.
@ajfromab - glad to hear you are on the mend.
I don't want to hijack your thread but do you know which antibiotic they gave you? Yes, its nosy curiosity but I have a reason for asking. The last time I had a serious infection and had to have IV (not from gear related issues), they used Levaquin because it is one of the few that have almost 100% oral bioavailability. Some docs I know use this antibiotic because they can hit you with a bag or two of IV and send you off with a script and refer to it as good oral as IV.
Levaquin is one of the quinolone antibiotic which have significant warnings for tendon ruptures.
Albeit unlikely, no doubt you lift hard so ask what antibiotic they gave you - you don't want a tendon issue.
Sorry you went through all this.
Taureau
Administrator
dude did not say all vials had lose tops. he said one did and did not use that one
so as for the others once again who knows and who will ever know for sure
I know we will not
unless we where there and had access to a lab to run sterility tests and such
what matters to me right now is the guy is getting the medical attention he needs and is going to get better
as for Guardian how a lab deals with a problem brought out in an open forum will be judged by each individual member
some will be happy and some like you will not be happy
either way you vote with your dollars and can buy from what ever lab you have access to and for whatever reason you favour