I was watching a Leo Rex video recently in which he made a comment which I was hoping someone can validate. He stated that Tbol caused less stress on the liver and kidneys than Anavar. Thinking of using one of these compounds preferably the safer of the two. Thoughts?
Turinabol or Anavar
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I’ve read the opposite I’ve allways been told and also read anavar was one of the least toxic orals
I think Leo stated that anvar was not so bad on the liver, but the kidneys were the issue. Maybe he holds this view as the liver has a better chance of recovery?
I don't know who Leo is but I'd guess the reasoning that would someone would use to support this opinion is that var is metabolized primarily by the kidneys not the liver.
Leo Rex has a you tube channel called Leo and Longevity. He covers many topics including Peds. Seems to be well informed.....
He comes across as well read and articulate but honestly some of what he says does not match my experience or learnings.
I would listen to the vets on here that have a ton of experience and most can back up with BW.
Your name Grey Beard so i assume your are 45+….if true i would recommend no orals or limit to just lifting days. Var is a DHT….you can get the same benefits with primo or mast and less potential sides. Our bodies are less resilient at this age.
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Ah, I do know who that is then. My thoughts about him mirror what @Oldguyjiujitsu said. In addition iirc some of the few vids I have seen him in had other guys on too, guests I assume. Some of those guys were so ignorant that it actually made me angry, that Leo guy did nothing to correct or question them when they said stupid shit so I'm lacking a little respect for him. Seems to give approval/agreement of the BS the were spitting by omission of correction or arguement
Regardless of that I've learned to rely on the facts to form my opinions regardless of the source. Doesn't matter to me if the source is an asshole, murderer, Liberal, Conservative, POC, holder of some fancy position or degree, IDGAF. Just the facts man.
Apologies for straying a little off topic.
Your correct 47 years young.My cholesterol is not horrible but not Ideal. I ordered some anavar and tbol along with primo. Not that I have to use the oral. From what I have read they seemed to be on the safer side. I want to avoid water retention, my trt dose has bumped my BP up and want to minimize any additional increases.
So primo alone I guess...
Nah, TBOL has zero effect negatively on MY BP. Anavar does raise mine a bit.
TBOL is impossible to give water retention brother by design, zero estrogenic effects.
If I go primo on top of my trt (140mg of enanthate per week). How much and how long will I have to run it to gain 10lbs?
However long it takes you to eat in a 3500 total calorie surplus 10x.
Pounds come from food not gear
I understand that I need to eat in a surplus. I am just looking for some guidance on running primo to help get there.
The Old Guy
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Depends. Are you plan to add to your cruise or blast it.
Cruising will likely not add much true muscle over the short term without intense training and structured eating. Eat clean add more protein you will gain muscle. This can take years.
If you want to build muscle fast bump your test up to about 500-750 per week and add primo at about 600 per week. Do the same training and structured diet as above and you will gain muscle quickly. This can take under a year.
This is just my 2 cents.
The Old Guy
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Oh and orals only as a preworkout.
Eat food. You'll grow.
Start your primo at a 1:1 ratio with your test and go from there.