Will you get the covid vaccine?

Will you get the covid vaccine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 39.6%
  • No

    Votes: 32 60.4%

  • Total voters
    53
How could you even tell what his platform was? He looked like a schoolyard bully picking a fight and Trudeau had no choice but to respond or look like a patsy.

Sheer started that shit and seriously turned my stomach on him because he looked like a rabid American politician. I still don't know the majority of his platform because I don't care to know. I don't trust the man.

It's like Dougie "The Diaper" Ford bawling his eyes out when he should be showing strength. He could literally start shitting 24k bricks of gold and I'm still going to see him as unfit to lead a whole lot of people who are relying on strong leadership right now.
There is this cool thing called the internet. You go to whatever politicians page and read.
Trudeau deserves what he gets, he avoids questions by answering with spewing bullshit about stuff completely unrelated. He egged it on as much as Scheer brought it.

The the crying thing by Ford was a disappointment. But in all reality most of us will never experience the level of stress he is right now.
 
I rarely post in these types of threads cause it turns into a much work project but I appreciate those who do no matter their opinion, so don't expect a further reply.

If you can't find massive amounts proof of the censorship within 30 secs of punching in a query at duckduckgo (note not google) then you are not even trying to see both sides of this.
Steven Crowder routinely puts out content that might open your eyes.
Also check out Project Veritas videos of CNN Exec straight up admitting it. And then getting twitter acct perma banned. Maybe FB too.
I rarely post in these types of threads cause it turns into a much work project but I appreciate those who do no matter their opinion, so don't expect a further reply.

If you can't find massive amounts proof of the censorship within 30 secs of punching in a query at duckduckgo (note not google) then you are not even trying to see both sides of this.
Steven Crowder routinely puts out content that might open your eyes.
Also check out Project Veritas videos of CNN Exec straight up admitting it. And then getting twitter acct perma banned. Maybe FB too.

I’ll take any a summation of 100 citations, from true academic or research sources, as proof that that millions of citation that the whole situation is what it is.
 
I’ll take any a summation of 100 citations, from true academic or research sources, as proof that that millions of citation that the whole situation is what it is.
I said not to expect a reply but this response makes no sense the way it's written, perhaps you'd like to reword? Not trynna be a dick, I just don't get your point cause of the sentence structure.

You definitely don't appear to be responding to the part about censorship though, which is weak because I led you to some undeniable stuff with very little effort. You would have to put the effort in from this point on if you do actually wish to have a balanced view of this situation.

Cheers
 
I’ll take any a summation of 100 citations, from true academic or research sources, as proof that that millions of citation that the whole situation is what it is.
See, you are asking for proof of censorship while you pretend it doesn't exist. FB, Twitter, youtube, google, all the liberal news outlets have all openly stated that they will ban and censor anything that goes against their narrative. And they are following through with it. If this is news to you then you have not been paying attention. It's no secret and isn't even debated.
Let's take a single product. HCQ. Fraudci himself put out a paper in 2009 praising it's effectiveness. Yet to even mention it gets you censored. Why? Simple. "They", "them" those with the agenda want everyone to believe that there is only one solution. And to avoid, deny or denounce that solution is wrong, immoral, selfish, the end of normal life itself. All the talking points you've clearly bought into and regurgitated.
Do some actual independent research. It's out there. And this is the part that confuses me. Why would anyone buy into the fear mongering and enrol in an experimental human trial for something that is hurting/killing people at a greater rate than any other vaccine ever. Especially when there are proven safe and effective alternatives that have been around for decades. Safe for kids, pregnant ladies, old, young. Everyone. No risk.
Here. These Dr's seem to know their shit. https://www.minds.com/covexit/ Admittedly, I haven't watched it all.
From what I have watched, they have the best approach possible. The approach that if our leaders and health officials would follow if they actually gave a shit about us. Early treatment. Staged treatments according to severity.
I'll ask you the same thing I ask everyone. Do you know what to do if you get a positive test? Or start to feel symptomatic? What do you do? What should you take? You let me know where I can find this info? Health Canada? Global News?
They probably tell you to isolate. Stay away from others. Quarantine yourself. Until when? Until you need to be intubated? Good luck!
We've got members here that have caught it. 😱 Death sentence right! nope. They educated themselves and knew exactly what to do.
I've already ranted and raved. I honestly believe those jabs are doing and will continue to do more harm than they will do good. If y'all want to call me an anti-vaxxer because it helps you sleep at night, fine. Good luck. Stick to the narratives that you are being fed 24-7.
I've seen and read way too much to still believe CNN or Trudeau has our best interests at heart.
 
How often did things make sense in your day-to-day pre-COVID world? Your world was often like mine in that you were left shaking your head over decisions made- or not made.
Touché!

I suppose it compounds now because it’s always about the same thing. I really struggle with the news. Always have, but it’s far worse now.... because again it’s every day and not just here and there.
 
I know that, but you cry at home, not in front of the troops.
As he imposes lockdowns, and gives us instructions he is the one everyone is looking up to, wether you like him or not.
But breaking down on tv IMO was not a wise move. Now the confidence I had in him is gone. Any decision he makes in the future I will wonder if it was made because he was weak, or afraid.
I believe the same thing. But ford visibly changed somewhere about 8 months ago maybe.

you could see it in his eyes and how he carried himself on camera.

I think he is defeated.
 
Scheer was a pit bull, lol.
I need examples of that.
I was going to say the same. Well, pit bull's aren't particularly bright, but I'm thinking something far more clueless and without an aggressive bone in its body. Watching him in the debate he seemed like an utter clown. All I recall him saying, and I'm paraphrasing, was Trudeau bad, Trudeau bad. He seemed to lack the ability to articulate, or perhaps that's the ability to think, either way I know some lifelong conservatives who wouldn't vote for him after that. Singh presented the most clearly, well articulated platform, and his ability to debate was unmatched.

What lack of integrity were you referring to previously? It is b/c he's propped up the liberals? My understanding was that he did that b/c they were supposed to support his Pharmacare plan. Unfortunately, the Maritime liberals fucked him over, which was a very greasy move.

I'm sure Singh has no love for Trudeau, but he is in a tough spot, b/c the conservatives would never support a PharmaCare plan. We are the only wealthy country with universal health care, but no universal drug coverage. The irony is that it would be a net benefit. It would not only save households, but private payers, as well as lowering the costs of drugs as a whole.
 
I believe the same thing. But ford visibly changed somewhere about 8 months ago maybe.

you could see it in his eyes and how he carried himself on camera.

I think he is defeated.
Yep.
poor guy gets shit on if he does, gets shit on if he doesn’t.
Horvac or whatever her name is, screams to have everything shut down, then he does and she bitching yesterday on the news about how he’s hurting business. Like fuck off.
He didn’t sign up for this. He wanted to improve the economy. I would be suprized if he runs at the next election.
The worst part about social media is only the whiners complain. So you get all the fringe people complaining like babies. I can’t believe I have friends that still think covid us fake and a control tactic. Are they overblowing it think it’s for our protection maybe, but fuck. One friend screams about this everyday, constantly contradicting himself. Then I have friends thinking it’s the end of days and we are should be careful so we don’t kill each other, using guilt as a ploy. If covid was really that dangerous, we wouldn’t need to use guilt. People falling over in the streets would likely do the trick.

Well his wife should give him a kick in the ass and tell him to stop pouting. His political career is likely over now anyways, be a man and do what you need to do and fuck all the complainers. When you have nothing to lose who cares. But either way, he obviously wasn’t strong enough.
 
I was going to say the same. Well, pit bull's aren't particularly bright, but I'm thinking something far more clueless and without an aggressive bone in its body. Watching him in the debate he seemed like an utter clown. All I recall him saying, and I'm paraphrasing, was Trudeau bad, Trudeau bad. He seemed to lack the ability to articulate, or perhaps that's the ability to think, either way I know some lifelong conservatives who wouldn't vote for him after that. Singh presented the most clearly, well articulated platform, and his ability to debate was unmatched.

What lack of integrity were you referring to previously? It is b/c he's propped up the liberals? My understanding was that he did that b/c they were supposed to support his Pharmacare plan. Unfortunately, the Maritime liberals fucked him over, which was a very greasy move.

I'm sure Singh has no love for Trudeau, but he is in a tough spot, b/c the conservatives would never support a PharmaCare plan. We are the only wealthy country with universal health care, but no universal drug coverage. The irony is that it would be a net benefit. It would not only save households, but private payers, as well as lowering the costs of drugs as a whole.
Singh jumps on every bandwagon. Oh, I’ve felt racism as well. When Trudeau was getting all the hair comments, he had to bring out his hair. Also as long as he’s feeling the power, he will prop up Trudeau on any issue. He will sell out for a slice. But I don’t really blame him on that, they will likely never hold power, so he going for what he can get.
plus I dont want that guy, he would tax me out of existence. Where is everyone going to work when all the owners say fuck it.

yeah , Scheer needed to stop bashing Trudeau all the time. But for some reason, people who like Trudeau are ok with all his scandals. I guess they figure better crooked him than someone else? The evil they know? Or maybe it’s because the constant lies from the unions and the liberal party about Cons cutting everything, people will starve and die in the streets is believed?

In the big scheme of things not a lot changes from one leader to the next. I look at it this way, do you like to spend your money where you want, or would you rather you pay it to the government and they decide where it’s spent? See where you are financially, and how healthy you are physically usually decides this point.
 
I was going to say the same. Well, pit bull's aren't particularly bright, but I'm thinking something far more clueless and without an aggressive bone in its body. Watching him in the debate he seemed like an utter clown. All I recall him saying, and I'm paraphrasing, was Trudeau bad, Trudeau bad. He seemed to lack the ability to articulate, or perhaps that's the ability to think, either way I know some lifelong conservatives who wouldn't vote for him after that. Singh presented the most clearly, well articulated platform, and his ability to debate was unmatched.

What lack of integrity were you referring to previously? It is b/c he's propped up the liberals? My understanding was that he did that b/c they were supposed to support his Pharmacare plan. Unfortunately, the Maritime liberals fucked him over, which was a very greasy move.

I'm sure Singh has no love for Trudeau, but he is in a tough spot, b/c the conservatives would never support a PharmaCare plan. We are the only wealthy country with universal health care, but no universal drug coverage. The irony is that it would be a net benefit. It would not only save households, but private payers, as well as lowering the costs of drugs as a whole.
Oh and as for Pharmacare, I have not looked into that. Well since I’m not on medication of any sort I done understand. But I know the price of drugs in Canada is far cheaper than the USA by compairson.
I also know that they are means for people to get funding for drugs that are out of their reach to pay for. I have a friend that was taking a biological RA Ned, that was like 100,000 or something stupid like that a year, that was paid for by a fund.

what I’m scared about is the government by its nature cannot do anything efficiently. Would it actually save any money or because of the bloat cost the tax payer more. I guess if you needs meds, it would save you money if it cost you nothing, but everyone else who doesn’t now pays.
 
There is this cool thing called the internet. You go to whatever politicians page and read.
Trudeau deserves what he gets, he avoids questions by answering with spewing bullshit about stuff completely unrelated. He egged it on as much as Scheer brought it.

The the crying thing by Ford was a disappointment. But in all reality most of us will never experience the level of stress he is right now.
I've never seen Biden cry and that man has truly cares AND has a world of shit on his shoulders. The republican senate has never, not ever been more fucked up and mental than right now. Four of them are still actively spewing pro Trump lies.
 
I've never seen Biden cry and that man has truly cares AND has a world of shit on his shoulders. The republican senate has never, not ever been more fucked up and mental than right now. Four of them are still actively spewing pro Trump lies.
Why did we go to the USA.
Biden only came in in the last 1/4. Ford was there from the start,
And the democrats produced their own problems. Telling everyone to keep rioting, and unlike what Biden believes the vaccine rollout was there long before him, lol.
Biden is senile. He had years to “do something good” and he didn’t do much.
The average person loved the economy Trump created. I just hope we don’t get the same mail in voting system.
 
Why did we go to the USA.
Biden only came in in the last 1/4. Ford was there from the start,
And the democrats produced their own problems. Telling everyone to keep rioting, and unlike what Biden believes the vaccine rollout was there long before him, lol.
Biden is senile. He had years to “do something good” and he didn’t do much.
The average person loved the economy Trump created. I just hope we don’t get the same mail in voting system.
Why does everybody go to the "he had years to do" thing. He was a Democrat senator in a senate that is generally republican or enough republican to filibuster. One man can't do much alone. The fact he's served his country for 40 years means more to me than some piece of shit republican senator who admits being in Qanon and people just accept it.

Asking people to riot? It wasn't BLM people rioting. They went home leaving pIssed off people who kind of rightfully are done sitting and watching bad cops slay blacks. Those pesky bodycams are showing over 3 bad killings every week of black people by white cops. Gay guy with a house phone to his head while talking to 911 yesterday. 11 shots for his trouble because he was on the phone. The worst is these cops demanding to see hands AFTER someone is dead or dying on the ground. Like they suddenly can show hands as they die or are bleeding to death. Maybe you forget I was once one of those guys? I had guys with unpointed hand guns rifles, rifles and shotguns I never shot because I knew my trigger finger was 200 times faster than them aiming their gun at me. I was trained to within an inch of my life and had the mentality for it though. Nobody got shot because I was speaking to them not screaming at them which is fucked up training. I hear the cops in these body cam videos and every last one of them is in panic and not in control of themselves or the situation.

Maybe people should just sit and ignore these killings and not protest for change?

As for senile it's funny but he's getting shit done. Maybe all presidents should be that kind of senile. At the very least he's not wrecking the country like his predecessor.

Lastly, I went American because there are no standout Politicians in Canada. Ford needs to be strong now, not cry because his political life is melting down. "Sorry folks" doesn't cut it a couple days after saying he was going to have cops arrest people out driving and closing children's playgrounds. We need strong leadership, not scattershot guessing.
 
I said not to expect a reply but this response makes no sense the way it's written, perhaps you'd like to reword? Not trynna be a dick, I just don't get your point cause of the sentence structure.

You definitely don't appear to be responding to the part about censorship though, which is weak because I led you to some undeniable stuff with very little effort. You would have to put the effort in from this point on if you do actually wish to have a balanced view of this situation.

Cheers
It’s in plane english. It summarizes in lay: provide any combination of 100 papers which are peer reviewed proving contrary to lockdowns, vaccinating and covid being real. Articles must also be used as reference proving their authenticity. This is the academic world.
Covidiotisim needs to be sensors no question.

again, a few credible cited and referenced research papers from credible institutions supporting your claim. And I will reevaluate my opinion.

Other then that I rest my case
 
What happened to the original question as to if we would get the vaccine?

As for me the answer is yes
Cannot say I like it much
Worry about long term sides
But I have health issues that might make getting covid a death sentence
So I will get the vaccine and give myself a fighting chance
 
It’s in plane english. It summarizes in lay: provide any combination of 100 papers which are peer reviewed proving contrary to lockdowns, vaccinating and covid being real. Articles must also be used as reference proving their authenticity. This is the academic world.
Covidiotisim needs to be sensors no question.

again, a few credible cited and referenced research papers from credible institutions supporting your claim. And I will reevaluate my opinion.

Other then that I rest my case
Let's be clear. I address(ed) you with no ill intent whatsoever and I'm not even arguing with you. All I'm saying is that if you drop the bias the info is out there. Obviously you did not have a good look at the two leads I gave you because they provide tons of peer reviewed studies if you take the time to actually seek them. I believe that I said from the start I would not do the work for you, if you choose to remain only partially informed that's up to you. I suspect that Confirmation Bias has reared it's ugly head here.

Now to turn slightly more negative and actually off topic. If that first post was "plane" english to you either english is not your first language or whatever education system you went through failed you sorely.

Furthermore - "Articles must also be used as reference proving their authenticity." That's absolutely ridiculous. Like almost beyond discussing on a serious level. At first I thought you meant it as a joke but then you had the gall to follow it with "This is the academic world." Any academic I know would laugh in your face at the first assertion.

You do you but 'resting your case' without considering all the evidence hardly makes sound sense but apparently you don't want to hear it.

Good Luck to you Sir.

I'm out.
 
Let's be clear. I address(ed) you with no ill intent whatsoever and I'm not even arguing with you. All I'm saying is that if you drop the bias the info is out there. Obviously you did not have a good look at the two leads I gave you because they provide tons of peer reviewed studies if you take the time to actually seek them. I believe that I said from the start I would not do the work for you, if you choose to remain only partially informed that's up to you. I suspect that Confirmation Bias has reared it's ugly head here.

Now to turn slightly more negative and actually off topic. If that first post was "plane" english to you either english is not your first language or whatever education system you went through failed you sorely.

Furthermore - "Articles must also be used as reference proving their authenticity." That's absolutely ridiculous. Like almost beyond discussing on a serious level. At first I thought you meant it as a joke but then you had the gall to follow it with "This is the academic world." Any academic I know would laugh in your face at the first assertion.

You do you but 'resting your case' without considering all the evidence hardly makes sound sense but apparently you don't want to hear it.

Good Luck to you Sir.

I'm out.
Attacking my language skill? I’m writing non a phone, I could not careless how my English rolls of here.

I don’t think you know what it takes to be peer reviewed.
I’ll take the luck, may need it with the covid.
 
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