How long to run HCG after stopping trt.

Bigbear

Bigbear

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I've been on trt I think 3 years maybe 4 tops. I had a few little blasts in that time but nothing big. I asked my doc for hcg so I could get the wife pregnant and also asked if I could just run the hcg with trt so I don't have to come off. He said sure and perscribed 500iu of hcg 3 times a week. I decided on my own to just stop trt for a fun experiment since I never have but also to help in kick starting the hormones. I haven't spoke to him because it's like 150$ each appointment so he doesn't know I stopped trt.

I'm wondering if :

1.) my dosing protocol for hcg should stay the same or is it lower considering he expected me to be on trt amd maybe didn't want to much aromatisiation?

2.) How long should I keep doing the hcg? Until my wife gets pregnant or a month or 2 months I'm not sure but I think I have 2 or 3 months worth of refills
 
Bigbear said:
I've been on trt I think 3 years maybe 4 tops. I had a few little blasts in that time but nothing big. I asked my doc for hcg so I could get the wife pregnant and also asked if I could just run the hcg with trt so I don't have to come off. He said sure and perscribed 500iu of hcg 3 times a week. I decided on my own to just stop trt for a fun experiment since I never have but also to help in kick starting the hormones. I haven't spoke to him because it's like 150$ each appointment so he doesn't know I stopped trt.

I'm wondering if :

1.) my dosing protocol for hcg should stay the same or is it lower considering he expected me to be on trt amd maybe didn't want to much aromatisiation?

2.) How long should I keep doing the hcg? Until my wife gets pregnant or a month or 2 months I'm not sure but I think I have 2 or 3 months worth of refills
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500iu EOD gets some guys up to 1000ng/dl. Go by how you feel. EOD injections will keep things steady and limit aromatization. I really cant see you getting gyno or something on that. If you do, simply lower the dose a bit, or something like 50mg of DIM will bring estrogen down a touch.

Just keep doing the HCG until you get your wife pregnant. I'd use HMG also and make sure I get my supplements in like selenium and vitamin e. Remember, by using HCG and HMG you are manually taking over the "T" part in the HPT axis as they act as analogues for LH and FSH. You have to keep using them because your brain isn't the one doing the signalling to the testicles to produce testosterone and sperm.

A little disclaimer, I have not used HMG or any other baby making protocols. But fertility is something I've been concerned about from the beginning so I keep up to date with the science and look after the family jewels as best I can on and between cycles lolšŸ˜‚
 
Umm depends on your time frame and goals. If you want to get her pregnant sooner than later then stay on. If you want to see if you can still produce sperm or test naturally then I would do it for three months or a month. I've heard of some people getting things back after running it for a year but they planned to stay off from then on and they also did use more harsh compounds.

I fear this subject isn't one anecdotal evidence can really help much with. You would get clear answers from a fertility specialist or dual fertility and Endo specialist who has seen the results from hundreds of subjects, many of whom are there because of shutdown or steroids.
 
I've read some trt protocols that say once a year cone off trt for a month and use hcg then continue with trt and repeat every 6 months, this apparently will prevent infertility while also not having to run hcg long term with trt.
 
Sounds like you are just looking for pregnancy and then your back to TRT? If you are looking to come off and have a decent natural test that will be one thing however for pure fertility likely another. PCT to come off is a pain after 4yrs and may or may not work. With respect to just having a baby infertility clinics are a fraction the cost depending on where you go in the US than Canada. Uber expensive here but not so much there. If you are the problem with no sperm production then they know what to do.
 
Negan said:
100mg every day
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Hmm , probably not enough. I got a protocol from coach steve(vigorous steve) which included 100mg DIM and 500mg CDG twice per day. I didn't get bloodwork but it definitely helped with oily skin and puffy nips on 200-250mg test c/ week.
 
CoolRick said:
Hmm , probably not enough. I got a protocol from coach steve(vigorous steve) which included 100mg DIM and 500mg CDG twice per day. I didn't get bloodwork but it definitely helped with oily skin and puffy nips on 200-250mg test c/ week.
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Do you get much benefit at 200mg to 250mg?
 
Bigbear said:
Do you get much benefit at 200mg to 250mg?
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200-250mg of test c for a cycle? Not that much. i did do 250mg test e/ week for my first cycle which i did grow.

That amount has me feeling pretty much like natural. In some ways worse.
 
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