Conspiracy Facts-Now we know what “Covid 19” was really about.

This reminds me of something I heard from a friend about a month ago.His sister was a waitress at the Sheraton in Regina 1968 iirc,Pierre grabbed her ass as she came to the table.
Just speculation but I say Justin was fooling around with McKenna,she just drools over him and she has been kept out of the spotlight as of late.Lolz at Sophie giving Covid to the black guy.
 
I'm starting to feel like I'm in an episode of South Park over here 😜

Im super serious. advantage to achieve their goal of control. Now if I...

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.. speech until it results in violence or harm. It becomes a weapon, no different than a gun.

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Edit: I hope this goes without saying, but I'm not actually trying to mock either of you guys. It's just what immediately popped in my head when I read those posts
 
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And the social media Giants are PUBLIC platforms,they are not private companies which can be LITIGATED against for their actions.
Quit spreading FAKE news.

If you want to shit on my comment do some fucking research, or not, but I'm happy to point out that you don't know what you are talking about. Did you capitalize those words because you thought I would miss them?

I was referring to the limitations on First Amendment rights on social media. Based on legal commentary and previous court proceedings that is currently their status with respect to First Amendment regulation/requirements. As you likely won't believe me, the links are provided for your benefit.

The U.S. Supreme Court should follow these examples from state supreme courts to relax the state action doctrine. The Court should interpret the First Amendment to limit the “unreasonably restrictive and oppressive conduct” by certain powerful, private entities—such as social media entities—that flagrantly censor freedom of expression.
- An argument made by David L. Hudson Jr., a Justice Robert H. Jackson Legal Fellow for the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE). He also is a First Amendment Fellow for the Freedom Forum Institute.

"rules that are being retrofitted for private internet platforms also sound like the mechanisms that keep real-world governments accountable to the public" https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...-restricts-free-speech-popular-demand/598462/

"First, while individuals have sometimes alleged that these companies violated their free speech rights by discriminating against users’ content, courts have held that the First Amendment, which provides protection against state action, is not implicated by the actions of these private companies."

"the question becomes whether the First Amendment could be applied to limit the censorial actions of private companies.
A significant hurdle to this is the state action doctrine, a key concept in constitutional law. The U.S. Supreme Court explained in the Civil Rights Cases (1883) that the 14th Amendment limits “state action” and not “individual invasion of individual rights.” In other words, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights limit the actions of governmental actors, not private actors.

Last year, a federal district court in Texas articulated the traditional view and ruled in Nyabwa v. Facebook that a private individual could not maintain a free-speech lawsuit against Facebook, writing: “the First Amendment governs only governmental limitations on speech.”

"Legal commentators have argued that when social media platforms decide whether and how to post users’ content, these publication decisions are themselves protected under the First Amendment" https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45650.pdf

And, here is a summary thought from an article published May 22, 2020, in Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/peters...can-violate-community-standards/#54e0af72465b

"They are private companies, and thus enjoy full discretion in publishing what they see fit. Whether they rise to that responsibility is another story all together."

I wasn't arguing what was right or not, I was stating what is a fact in the context of the discussion. I don't believe I've done this much citation since university, lol.

Below is a youtube link which fairly accurately represents how I feel, lol..

 
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Edit: I hope this goes without saying, but I'm not actually trying to mock either of you guys. It's just what immediately popped in my head when I read those posts
LOL this had me dying of laughter. I edited my original post from "super cereal" to "super serious" because I didnt think anyone would get it...
 
If you want to shit on my comment do some fucking research, or not, but I'm happy to point out that you don't know what you are talking about. Did you capitalize those words because you thought I would miss them?

I was referring to the limitations on First Amendment rights on social media. Based on legal commentary and previous court proceedings that is currently their status with respect to First Amendment regulation/requirements. As you likely won't believe me, the links are provided for your benefit.

The U.S. Supreme Court should follow these examples from state supreme courts to relax the state action doctrine. The Court should interpret the First Amendment to limit the “unreasonably restrictive and oppressive conduct” by certain powerful, private entities—such as social media entities—that flagrantly censor freedom of expression.
- An argument made by David L. Hudson Jr., a Justice Robert H. Jackson Legal Fellow for the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE). He also is a First Amendment Fellow for the Freedom Forum Institute.

"rules that are being retrofitted for private internet platforms also sound like the mechanisms that keep real-world governments accountable to the public" https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...-restricts-free-speech-popular-demand/598462/

"First, while individuals have sometimes alleged that these companies violated their free speech rights by discriminating against users’ content, courts have held that the First Amendment, which provides protection against state action, is not implicated by the actions of these private companies."

"the question becomes whether the First Amendment could be applied to limit the censorial actions of private companies.
A significant hurdle to this is the state action doctrine, a key concept in constitutional law. The U.S. Supreme Court explained in the Civil Rights Cases (1883) that the 14th Amendment limits “state action” and not “individual invasion of individual rights.” In other words, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights limit the actions of governmental actors, not private actors.

Last year, a federal district court in Texas articulated the traditional view and ruled in Nyabwa v. Facebook that a private individual could not maintain a free-speech lawsuit against Facebook, writing: “the First Amendment governs only governmental limitations on speech.”

"Legal commentators have argued that when social media platforms decide whether and how to post users’ content, these publication decisions are themselves protected under the First Amendment" https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45650.pdf

And, here is a summary thought from an article published May 22, 2020, in Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/peters...can-violate-community-standards/#54e0af72465b

"They are private companies, and thus enjoy full discretion in publishing what they see fit. Whether they rise to that responsibility is another story all together."

I wasn't arguing what was right or not, I was stating what is a fact in the context of the discussion. I don't believe I've done this much citation since university, lol.

Below is a youtube link which fairly accurately represents how I feel, lol..


Cite all the opinions you want,when Trump gets back in and shakes off the termites these commie outfits are in the cross hairs and they will lose.They pick off the little guys but they don't dare touch Trump which I guess you have noticed.
Now tell us about Antifa.
 
Cite all the opinions you want,when Trump gets back in and shakes off the termites these commie outfits are in the cross hairs and they will lose.They pick off the little guys but they don't dare touch Trump which I guess you have noticed.
Now tell us about Antifa.
this pic perfectly sums up the average antifa
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Cite all the opinions you want,when Trump gets back in and shakes off the termites these commie outfits are in the cross hairs and they will lose.They pick off the little guys but they don't dare touch Trump which I guess you have noticed.
Now tell us about Antifa.

Research it yourself. As I said before, I'm done with this.

Apparently, you never took any time to read any of those articles. Those aren't opinions, they are count rulings. Fwiw, it was the conservative ideological leaning chief justices who voted in favour of Facebook, the same people who support Trump. You don't have a clue, do you? And, apparently, well, obviously, you're not intellectually mature enough to have a rational debate, as evidence by your nonsense postings.

I've removed notifications from this thread, feel free to argue with yourself.
 
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Cite all the opinions you want,when Trump gets back in and shakes off the termites these commie outfits are in the cross hairs and they will lose.They pick off the little guys but they don't dare touch Trump which I guess you have noticed.
Now tell us about Antifa.

 
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Research it yourself. As I said before, I'm done with this.

Apparently, you never took any time to read any of those articles. Those aren't opinions, they are count rulings. Fwiw, it was the conservative ideological leaning chief justices who voted in favour of Facebook, the same people who support Trump. You don't have a clue, do you? And, apparently, well, obviously, you're not intellectually mature enough to have a rational debate, as evidence by your nonsense postings.

I've removed notifications from this thread, feel free to argue with yourself.
So run and hide.Who cares if Justice Roberts felt he had to show "balance"voting with the lefties.
Trump has the Trump card.Do you know what it is?
I will tell you.Becsuse it Trump's all other arguments.It has a very well known name,which some progressive types sure hate,but was very astutely included in the rights of Americans,and which makes America the destination of choice for people around the world.

The First Amendment.
The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion,expression,assembly and the right to petition.
It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely.

Read it and weep.I know you will.
 
So run and hide.Who cares if Justice Roberts felt he had to show "balance"voting with the lefties.
Trump has the Trump card.Do you know what it is?
I will tell you.Becsuse it Trump's all other arguments.It has a very well known name,which some progressive types sure hate,but was very astutely included in the rights of Americans,and which makes America the destination of choice for people around the world.

The First Amendment.
The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion,expression,assembly and the right to petition.
It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely.

Read it and weep.I know you will.

He is right about the current interpretation of 1A not applying to private corporations though.

Personally I think it's bs, because we're talking about monopolistic companies who grew their business using public internet infrastructure.

Sites like Twitter have become the de facto public square. If you're shut out of that space you are as effectively silenced as if the state had done it themselves. Having that power delegated to big business feels... dystopian?

It's a strange, transitional time we live in. Laws that were written 250 years ago are being reinterpreted to account for technology they never could have imagined.
 
He is right about the current interpretation of 1A not applying to private corporations though.

Personally I think it's bs, because we're talking about monopolistic companies who grew their business using public internet infrastructure.

Sites like Twitter have become the de facto public square. If you're shut out of that space you are as effectively silenced as if the state had done it themselves. Having that power delegated to big business feels... dystopian?

It's a strange, transitional time we live in. Laws that were written 250 years ago are being reinterpreted to account for technology they never could have imagined.
They are getting away with it for now..
If you are a publisher,you can decide what to publish,and can be sued for what you print.
If you are a public platform,there are no barriers to contributing bar pure hate,and the platform has protection from litigation.
 
And there is plenty of porn on Facebook.

Indeed, and anonymous porn sites have a lower barrier to entry than Facebook. At least Facebook requires a login and parents can more easily monitor what their children are seeing. If censoring content on the internet is about protecting children, then porn should be first to go. I wager hearing Alex Jones rant about globalists for an hour is far less damaging than watching an hour of pornhub.
 
I suspect there will be some adjustments soon to social media. All in the name of free elections. Right now the social media gods are very partisan and manipulating voters. Look at 2018 midterms. Fucking bullshit. I cant see that being allowed now. Stakes are too high. Liberals elevated and conservatives crushed or removed. Happened here too. I would prefer to see facebook dismantled.
 
So run and hide.Who cares if Justice Roberts felt he had to show "balance"voting with the lefties.
Trump has the Trump card.Do you know what it is?
I will tell you.Becsuse it Trump's all other arguments.It has a very well known name,which some progressive types sure hate,but was very astutely included in the rights of Americans,and which makes America the destination of choice for people around the world.

The First Amendment.
The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion,expression,assembly and the right to petition.
It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely.

Read it and weep.I know you will.

Run and hide from what? You? Your baseless and biased opinions? Someone who can't form and present an argument substantiated by facts? Someone who clearly has no idea who is pulling the strings? You think it is liberals who are oppressing First Amendment rights on social media? Below is an except of a ruling in favour of a public access channel that operates out of N.Y. The ruling represents which ideological camp is in favour of denying First Amendment rights.


The Supreme Court decision was voted in favour by the conservative chief justices, not the liberal-leaning chief justices. "In a 5–4 decision, split between the conservative and liberal justices, the court ruled that the Manhattan Neighborhood Network could not face lawsuits for deciding not to air content that criticized it.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote on behalf of the majority that, while the First Amendment's free speech clause applies to "state actors" or governmental entities, the network is a private entity, not a state actor: "Providing some kind of forum for speech is not an activity that only governmental entities have traditionally performed," the decision reads. "Therefore, a private entity who provides a forum for speech is not transformed by that fact alone into a state actor."

In their dissent, the Supreme Court's liberal justices maintained that First Amendment constraints should apply to the Manhattan Neighborhood Network: "By accepting that agency relationship, MNN stepped into the City's shoes and thus qualifies as a state actor," Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote, "subject to the First Amendment like any other."


Now, I know you think Trump is on the right side of everything, but again, guess who opposed freedom of speech with respect to twitter when his opinions were being criticized?

In this case, the White House did not contend that the users who were blocked by Trump were abusive or harassing. Instead, the Justice Department stipulated in 2017 that the users were blocked because they posted tweets that criticized Trump or his policies.

On July 11, 2017, the Knight Institute filed a lawsuit in federal court against President Trump and his aides for blocking seven people from the @realDonaldTrump Twitter account based on their criticism of his presidency and policies. ]

Siding against the White House, a federal appellate court in New York voted 7-2 to leave in place a decision that President Donald Trump violated the First Amendment by blocking critics on Twitter. "a three-judge panel of the 2nd Circuit rejected the White House's position, ruling that evidence of the account's official nature was “overwhelming.”

The Justice Department then urged the 2nd Circuit for a new hearing in front of all or most of the circuit's judges.
On Monday, the 2nd Circuit denied that request, with two judges -- Michael Park and Richard Sullivan -- dissenting. Park and Sullivan were both appointed by Trump to the 2nd Circuit in the last two years; Sullivan was previously appointed to the Southern District of New York by former president George W. Bush.



Lastly, to address your point about the terrible danger that left-wing extremists pose,

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml (“Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2019” )

Congress finds the following:

(1) White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States.

(2) On February 22, 2019, a Trump Administration United States Department of Justice official wrote in a New York Times op-ed that “white supremacy and far-right extremism are among the greatest domestic-security threats facing the United States. Regrettably, over the past 25 years, law enforcement, at both the Federal and State levels, has been slow to respond. … Killings committed by individuals and groups associated with far-right extremist groups have risen significantly.”.

(3) An April 2017 Government Accountability Office report on the significant, lethal threat posed by domestic violent extremists explained that “ince September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year.” The report noted: “[F]atalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent)

These are credible sources, legitmate court decisions, and a federal gov't bill.

The social medial debate is ongoing and evolving, and the more I've researched it the more I'm divided how best it should be handled. FB was used extensively for ISIL campaigning and recruitment, same goes for white-supremacist garbage promoting their views.

There are liberal and conservative actors on both sides, it's certainly not black and white, but if that's the world you live in then that explains your views.
 
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Run and hide from what? You? Your baseless and biased opinions? Someone who can't form and present an argument substantiated by facts? Someone who clearly has no idea who is pulling the strings? You think it is liberals who are oppressing First Amendment rights on social media? Below is an except of a ruling in favour of a public access channel that operates out of N.Y. The ruling represents which ideological camp is in favour of denying First Amendment rights.


The Supreme Court decision was voted in favour by the conservative chief justices, not the liberal-leaning chief justices. "In a 5–4 decision, split between the conservative and liberal justices, the court ruled that the Manhattan Neighborhood Network could not face lawsuits for deciding not to air content that criticized it.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote on behalf of the majority that, while the First Amendment's free speech clause applies to "state actors" or governmental entities, the network is a private entity, not a state actor: "Providing some kind of forum for speech is not an activity that only governmental entities have traditionally performed," the decision reads. "Therefore, a private entity who provides a forum for speech is not transformed by that fact alone into a state actor."

In their dissent, the Supreme Court's liberal justices maintained that First Amendment constraints should apply to the Manhattan Neighborhood Network: "By accepting that agency relationship, MNN stepped into the City's shoes and thus qualifies as a state actor," Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote, "subject to the First Amendment like any other."


Now, I know you think Trump is on the right side of everything, but again, guess who opposed freedom of speech with respect to twitter when his opinions were being criticized?

In this case, the White House did not contend that the users who were blocked by Trump were abusive or harassing. Instead, the Justice Department stipulated in 2017 that the users were blocked because they posted tweets that criticized Trump or his policies.

On July 11, 2017, the Knight Institute filed a lawsuit in federal court against President Trump and his aides for blocking seven people from the @realDonaldTrump Twitter account based on their criticism of his presidency and policies. ]

Siding against the White House, a federal appellate court in New York voted 7-2 to leave in place a decision that President Donald Trump violated the First Amendment by blocking critics on Twitter. "a three-judge panel of the 2nd Circuit rejected the White House's position, ruling that evidence of the account's official nature was “overwhelming.”

The Justice Department then urged the 2nd Circuit for a new hearing in front of all or most of the circuit's judges.
On Monday, the 2nd Circuit denied that request, with two judges -- Michael Park and Richard Sullivan -- dissenting. Park and Sullivan were both appointed by Trump to the 2nd Circuit in the last two years; Sullivan was previously appointed to the Southern District of New York by former president George W. Bush.



Lastly, to address your point about the terrible danger that left-wing extremists pose,

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml (“Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2019” )

Congress finds the following:

(1) White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States.

(2) On February 22, 2019, a Trump Administration United States Department of Justice official wrote in a New York Times op-ed that “white supremacy and far-right extremism are among the greatest domestic-security threats facing the United States. Regrettably, over the past 25 years, law enforcement, at both the Federal and State levels, has been slow to respond. … Killings committed by individuals and groups associated with far-right extremist groups have risen significantly.”.

(3) An April 2017 Government Accountability Office report on the significant, lethal threat posed by domestic violent extremists explained that “ince September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year.” The report noted: “[F]atalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent)

These are credible sources, legitmate court decisions, and a federal gov't bill.

The social medial debate is ongoing and evolving, and the more I've researched it the more I'm divided how best it should be handled. FB was used extensively for ISIL campaigning and recruitment, same goes for white-supremacist garbage promoting their views.

There are liberal and conservative actors on both sides, it's certainly not black and white, but if that's the world you live in then that explains your views.

Not sure why the content is struck-through, perhaps there was too much posted. I revised it twice, that's all the time I can spare.
 
Where does Antifa or BLM fit i to this?
White supremacy groups, even if they are a majorly exaggerated threat Obviously have no place in our society, but its Antifa that put on masks and terrorize and assault people these days.
 
Where does Antifa or BLM fit i to this?
White supremacy groups, even if they are a majorly exaggerated threat Obviously have no place in our society, but its Antifa that put on masks and terrorize and assault people these days.
If they were a credible threat, do you not think they would be included? Perhaps the Trump administration is actually on the side of the liberals, and the entire report is biased, lol.
A majorly exaggerated threat? Whatever dude. You are firmly cemented in your beliefs that the left is the greatest threat in the U.S., and if you won't believe a Bill presented to Congress by the administration of your Fuhrer there is nothing more I can say.
 
If they were a credible threat, do you not think they would be included? Perhaps the Trump administration is actually on the side of the liberals, and the entire report is biased, lol.
A majorly exaggerated threat? Whatever dude. You are firmly cemented in your beliefs that the left is the greatest threat in the U.S., and if you won't believe a Bill presented to Congress by the administration of your Fuhrer there is nothing more I can say.

I am just saying i dont see too many videos of skinheads going around pounding on non whites during rallies and shit. But i do not agree with their ideology. If you are violent towards someone because of race then no place in todays society.
i have seen many many videos of Antifa members beating on people for having nothing more than a different political opinion. Even wearing a red ball cap. This happens in Canada, UK, etc so not a trump thing. Its a George Soros thing.
And i dont give a shit who congress says is a threat. Dems, republicans, conservitive, liberal, NDP. It doesnt matter. They are all part of the same club with few exceptions. I am sure i have mentioned this before but i ride right down the centre. If the left has an idea i agree with then great. Same as the right. I will also boo both sides if think they are doing things against the public best interest, which is the majority of the time!
There are a handful of politicians in Canada i trust. They ain't all Conservatives. Lol. Actually i can only think Of one politician in Canada i would vote for these days, and thats Pierre from Ont. I wouldnt care which party he was in.
Even fewer in the USA. There are a few democrat politicians who i think are great and would love to see them climb the ladder and get more attention. I knew it would never happen, but i wanted to see Tulsi Gabbard go against Trump and win. I do not agree with everything she says, but i dont have to. There are dozens of Republican senators and house reps i would love to see in prison.
i try not to base my opinions on party ideology. I do actually follow both sides and make my opinions based on what i feel is fair and logical,
I am not aware of any rules that say if you agree with someone on one subject then you have to agree with everything they believe in.
Believe it or not, i even agree with some of the things you say too!!
 
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