OMG is all I can say

Talking about your problems doesnt make you weak or a pussy !! A close friend killed himself a few years back . Nobody saw it coming because he never shared his feeling . Life gets hard if you keep it all inside it will eat you up . My pm is always open for brothers that just need to let it out .
 
An important post Bull.

I’ve dealt with mental illness for many years...since a kid. Finally got some serious help over the last few years. I was diagnosed with Bipolar Type 2 and put on 4 different medications. I no longer walk around hating myself. I still have good and bad days but such is life...at least it’s not everyday. I went through a bad OD just over a year ago and nearly died. Now I’m glad I didn’t.

So my point is, get help and don’t wait. Wish I would have got help years ago....

Bunk
 
Friend of mine since 1970 took his own life a year last April.He got another DUI.They offered to let him stay at the office upstairs in a guest suite but he turned it down.Couldnt sell his house.Blew his head off.Big memoriam.
 
I've entertained these thoughts at one time or another, nothing serious - I suspect most have. The thing is, what makes us think it'll all be ok on "the other side"? What if all your problems and pain are 100x worse? That's assuming you succeed and there's anything that comes after. Many fail and end up horribly mutilated or brain-damaged.

I know people in that dark place aren't thinking rationally though...
 
Funnyman said:
I know how stress can be, been a few times in the past 23 years.
When you think you have it bad, there are so many people worst.
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These are the types of comments men always make, minimizing what they're going through and not addressing it or asking for help. Not trying to come down on you bro...just saying, there's no sliding scale to problems, what's bad in my world might be minimal in yours and vice versa. There will always be someone worse off, just like there will always be someone better off. Neither of these facts make what each of us have to deal with in our own lives any less important or real....know what I mean?
 
My best friend hung himself a few years back and I will never know why he didn’t call me. He used to call me me when his demons were taking over and I would go see him an help.
Still miss him,
Good post Bull!
 
All too true of a post I’ve lost many friends over the years to this. Most of which were ex military. Times get tough and it gets dark. Talk to someone! Live life don’t just survive it, if you’re struggling get some help.
 
Frank.castle said:
All too true of a post I’ve lost many friends over the years to this. Most of which were ex military. Times get tough and it gets dark. Talk to someone! Live life don’t just survive it, if you’re struggling get some help.
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Do you feel vets are getting the support they need now? From what I understand, depression is a huge problem for returning vets. I hope our country is taking care of them.
 
vancitybb said:
Do you feel vets are getting the support they need now? From what I understand, depression is a huge problem for returning vets. I hope our country is taking care of them.
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Honestly I think we fail miserably at looking after our vets. The latest story I’ve heard is fed government has cut their health care. No vet is covered by their provincial healthcare. When they join they are covered by dnd. Any services outside of the military docs is covered by provincial health care but funded by the feds. There are now hospitals that are refusing to give vets ct scans and mri’s because the feds have cut back 25% on what they are paying (don’t quote me on that number I can’t recall exact at this moment).

So now not only are we failing at mental health services we are now failing at physical health of our vets. These guys and girls signed up to give their life for our country and this is how we treat them. It’s sad
 
Frank.castle said:
Honestly I think we fail miserably at looking after our vets. The latest story I’ve heard is fed government has cut their health care. No vet is covered by their provincial healthcare. When they join they are covered by dnd. Any services outside of the military docs is covered by provincial health care but funded by the feds. There are now hospitals that are refusing to give vets ct scans and mri’s because the feds have cut back 25% on what they are paying (don’t quote me on that number I can’t recall exact at this moment).

So now not only are we failing at mental health services we are now failing at physical health of our vets. These guys and girls signed up to give their life for our country and this is how we treat them. It’s sad
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This article is one of the more simple explanations. It's a form of dumping onto Provincial healthcare.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6007117/military-health-care-cuts/

There is help for the Military but battling the stigma has been far more difficult with the military. I have found Wounded Warriors to be quite good. https://woundedwarriors.ca/our-programs/

https://www.canada.ca/en/department...benefits-military/military-mental-health.html

https://globalnews.ca/invisible-wou...ine-resources-for-soldiers-veterans-in-crisis
 
Bagua said:
This article is one of the more simple explanations. It's a form of dumping onto Provincial healthcare.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6007117/military-health-care-cuts/

There is help for the Military but battling the stigma has been far more difficult with the military. I have found Wounded Warriors to be quite good. https://woundedwarriors.ca/our-programs/

https://www.canada.ca/en/department...benefits-military/military-mental-health.html

https://globalnews.ca/invisible-wou...ine-resources-for-soldiers-veterans-in-crisis
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Through my experience with my group of friends (just Under a dozen) there is usually 2 paths theses guys/gals take once out. Either they become workaholics and drown things out with work or there’s a substance use to deal with it. I agree that vets do have programs and I also agree that the stigma is usually worse with that group. But as our wonderful prime minister says.. “there’s more we need to do”
 
Frank.castle said:
Through my experience with my group of friends (just Under a dozen) there is usually 2 paths theses guys/gals take once out. Either they become workaholics and drown things out with work or there’s a substance use to deal with it. I agree that vets do have programs and I also agree that the stigma is usually worse with that group. But as our wonderful prime minister says.. “there’s more we need to do”
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There is a lot more we need to do in Mental Health across the board. Your group displays a handful of what the Veteran Affairs and local resources see while working with Vets. A Vet will never be turned away from any 'Civvy" resource. Veterans live with the same struggles that any group battling mental illness do and the range is vast. We must be sure that Vets are addressed on an individual level to be able to look at finding and retaining employment, homelessness, substance abuse, mental illness, invisible injury and stigma. Vets respond well to support groups that consist of Vets and there are many across the land. Unfortunately, we are still dealing with a 242% higher likelihood of Vets killing themselves than the average population. Many fall through the cracks.
 
Frank.castle said:
Honestly I think we fail miserably at looking after our vets. The latest story I’ve heard is fed government has cut their health care. No vet is covered by their provincial healthcare. When they join they are covered by dnd. Any services outside of the military docs is covered by provincial health care but funded by the feds. There are now hospitals that are refusing to give vets ct scans and mri’s because the feds have cut back 25% on what they are paying (don’t quote me on that number I can’t recall exact at this moment).

So now not only are we failing at mental health services we are now failing at physical health of our vets. These guys and girls signed up to give their life for our country and this is how we treat them. It’s sad
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Damn, I was afraid this is the answer I'd get. It's disgusting.
 
Good post bull. I suffer from my own demons at times. I rarely if ever talk about it as I don’t have a lot of social real world friends near me as I’ve moved frequently chasing a career that in the end did me no good service at all.
Lots more to life than working I am learning to realize, but then loneliness and alone feeling sets in. I have a strong sense of loyalty and respect for people but rarely is this given back these days and it gets heavy feeling like so many folks only care about themselves and I end up just beating myself up and always look and find faults with myself before I blame others and many times I am wrong.
friends are important especially when you are a feeling type of person.
I noticed I started getting hard, losing empathy and just feeling frustrated awhile back. I made a change as I was going down a hole and almost losing confidence in myself at times and feeling like I was going down.
Changed things up not long ago,
I started becoming more like my old self.
I quit my corporate bullshit job, paid rediculous salary and took a less salary, still very healthy and started getting in touch with myself, opening the door to my wife and blaming myself less for any shortcomings on my work teams.
Started giving less of a shit about my work and focusing on future and living in the present.
Doing things I enjoy and stopped feeling like I always need to perform because the more I tried the nor I see so many in this time we are living in just want static items in their life and not change and improve.
I think folks are so overwhelmed with today’s challenges out there we face that the energy is switching.
So I do feel better , I still falter, I still feel like I go into a hole when things get tough, but I now focus on life and reality and not work and it’s helping.
Now many of us go through it from work, family, money issues or just a funk that shows up from somewhere in subconscious.
Being in touch with others is the greatest gift we can have in these times.
Really in touch, not texting etc.
That’s the tough part right now , is making real friends in a small community where you are a newbie.
There’s no place like home they say.
That’s my share for the day. It’s a tough go at times and I spent most of my life as a callous and not caring to deep about anything kind of guy, then it changed and feelings came in just a few years back and then it got tougher.
But learning to manage feelings after having very few is a challenge but somehow it feels a bit rewarding after you get through it and realize it is not that you did not care, you stored and compartmentalized things until there was no room left and then it started to leak out.
So I’m in a good place , but not without feelings anymore. Makes it different and fun and learning to pick up new tools as I roll along to stay strong and deal with items and then put them away.
Not just stash in the closet hoping to not see them again.
Stay strong and it’s nice to hear the folks saying their door is open.
Good on you.
 
As someone who has depression and planning on sucide in the last few years it's hard to say something especially when I was taught not to talk about how your feeling to keep it to myself.
I talk to my hubby and a good friend but other than that I keep quiet. Luckily with my diet and support from my hubby and good friend I haven't planned any sucide attempts in 5 months
 
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