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silant76

silant76

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I am thinking to run on a blast and cruise
it would go like this and if some not make sense I am looking for feedback, thanks

Test 400..........week.......(1-16)
DHB 200........week........(1-16)
Tbol 50...........day...........(1-8)
Proviron 25...day...........(1-12)
Carderin 10...day...........(8-16)


Test e 200.......week.......(17 -25)

Test 400..........week.......(26-40)
DHB 200........week........(26-40)
Tbol 50...........day...........(26-34)
Proviron 25...day...........(26-40)

and so on ..........
 
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CanadianMusclez said:
Are you running any ai s? And what lab are you running
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I got arimidex, clom and nova aside in case
I insert proviron 25 day to help with aromatise aspect (from what what i red)
and DHB as well (from what i red) it can help reducing the estrogenic effect
 
CanadianMusclez said:
Looks good to me..
How many cycles have you run and what’s your age ?
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Im 54 (55 in few month)
5 10
200lbs
16%-19% BF

3500 cal / day on cycle (of i am 2800 cal)
40% Pro
30% Fat
30% carb

split upper lower
EOD
1on 1off

My first cycle finish 1.5 month ago

test e 500/ 14 week
-250 test e Sund am
-250 test e Wed pm
MK 12.5mg / day - bed time - 50 days
 
Not really sure where to start - number one would be to get all your blood work, BP, and I sure hope your healthy. Your almost 55 and plan to run 40 weeks straight with an 8 week break of 200 mg per week?
This is your second cycle and your going to run 5 compounds (including 2 orals even though one is Proviron) and on your 3rd your going to run two orals for 16 weeks?
I would go back to the drawing board and come up with a better approach - reasons being your age and health. Is your doctor monitoring your BP, lipids, liver and kidney function or will you be doing that yourself?

Proviron is usually very well tolerated but then again so is oxandrolone. If I run oxandrolone at 10 mg a day (basically a dosage many women run it at) for 3 weeks my ALT is 4 times the norm. My liver hates oxandrolone and tells me to fuck off if I touch it.

Age is just a number and if your healthy I'm not saying don't step on the gas if you want to but I would reconsider the compounds (which I can't really recommend any as you haven't told anyone your goals - bulk, cut, etc.). I would not run an oral for 16 weeks and call me cautious I sure wouldn't run two.

What are you hoping to get out of these two back to back cycles? Just my opinion but you could get a lot more out of this with different training. Your talking about a decent amount of gear and your going to go 1 on and 1 off (upper/lower). Nothing wrong with that system but with this much gear coursing through my body I suspect you would get a lot more out of a PPL system. 2 days on and 1 off.

regardless of what you do - good luck and be safe.
 
Jestopherson said:
So wait you plan to only cruise for 9 weeks between 16 and 14 week blasts? And on the second blast after only 9 weeks on cruise you want to run tbol for 14 weeks straight?
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i am just at the figuring stage now and that is why i posted
so i can have the experienced / pro guys feedback
then adjust accordingly

blast 14 or 16 week with 1ml test 400, its a really a mild blast that i red
then 10-12 weeks or so on cruise, thought would be good
but obviously when ill get better advise i will definitely adjust it

*** tbold 14 weeks was a mistake, i edited corrected to 8 weeks

Thank for your thoughts
 
Goldenrod said:
Not really sure where to start - number one would be to get all your blood work, BP, and I sure hope your healthy. Your almost 55 and plan to run 40 weeks straight with an 8 week break of 200 mg per week?
This is your second cycle and your going to run 5 compounds (including 2 orals even though one is Proviron) and on your 3rd your going to run two orals for 16 weeks?
I would go back to the drawing board and come up with a better approach - reasons being your age and health. Is your doctor monitoring your BP, lipids, liver and kidney function or will you be doing that yourself?

Proviron is usually very well tolerated but then again so is oxandrolone. If I run oxandrolone at 10 mg a day (basically a dosage many women run it at) for 3 weeks my ALT is 4 times the norm. My liver hates oxandrolone and tells me to fuck off if I touch it.

Age is just a number and if your healthy I'm not saying don't step on the gas if you want to but I would reconsider the compounds (which I can't really recommend any as you haven't told anyone your goals - bulk, cut, etc.). I would not run an oral for 16 weeks and call me cautious I sure wouldn't run two.

What are you hoping to get out of these two back to back cycles? Just my opinion but you could get a lot more out of this with different training. Your talking about a decent amount of gear and your going to go 1 on and 1 off (upper/lower). Nothing wrong with that system but with this much gear coursing through my body I suspect you would get a lot more out of a PPL system. 2 days on and 1 off.

regardless of what you do - good luck and be safe.
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Hey brother, really appreciate what you saying and very wise words, Thanks!

to clarify and answer your question and or everyone questions

Yes i got an very good Doc that lectured me already twice, but she will keep an eye on my blood, (before mid and after cycle)
going for another blood test this week,

I got my own BP unit at home

the cruise at 200 mg per week, i red this very often and they called that a beginner cruise

This year its new for me to do the 1 day on of, upper lower
for years i did 2 on 1 off, but realised that with no "juice" that was getting to much for me
 
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DeezNutz said:
I echo much of what the vets above have said.

Have you thought about simply expanding upon your first cycle by simply adding one more compound to the mix?
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I slowly aiming toward downsizing and adjusting according to the vets feed back.
And will post the adjusted version
 
Brbpuppy said:
Why have you chose to run DHB?
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all the reading i did suggested that DHB
  • build high-quality muscle
  • don’t result in a lot of bloat and theretofore easier on BP
  • adding strength and muscle with less water
  • shred and low gyno
  • less sweat then Tren
  • require less ML per pin
 
silant76 said:
all the reading i did suggested that DHB
  • build high-quality muscle
  • don’t result in a lot of bloat and theretofore easier on BP
  • adding strength and muscle with less water
  • shred and low gyno
  • less sweat then Tren
  • require less ML per pin
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I admittedly don't know much about dhb. I've read a few times its overhyped so I stopped there.

But with all of those reasons. Why not drop the dhb and proviron. Then run either primo similar to what @Brbpuppy is doing on his next blast or mast. Both with cut on water. No aromatization, have anti e effects, both are capable of lean dry gains. You can then cut down on compounds, but at your bodyfat percentage personally I think you should be aiming to cut.

That's just what I'm thinking but that's mostly because I'm not overly familiar with dhb.


*edit*
Did a bit more reading on DHB. Possible liver toxicity displayed in rodent models shown via increased liver weight compared to control and testosterone subjects. Only had a few minutes before work. Will continue reading and change my response as necessary
 
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Jestopherson said:
I admittedly don't know much about dhb. I've read a few times its overhyped so I stopped there.

But with all of those reasons. Why not drop the dhb and proviron. Then run either primo similar to what @Brbpuppy is doing on his next blast or mast. Both with cut on water. No aromatization, have anti e effects, both are capable of lean dry gains. You can then cut down on compounds, but at your bodyfat percentage personally I think you should be aiming to cut.

That's just what I'm thinking but that's mostly because I'm not overly familiar with dhb.
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Thanks, im still shuffling everything, my brain is saturated now, with all the reading, video watching and good feedback on here.

I am not sure if i can copy a link from another forum and past it on here, if the CB board allow this
 
silant76 said:
Thanks, im still shuffling everything, my brain is saturated now, with all the reading, video watching and good feedback on here.

I am not sure if i can copy a link from another forum and past it on here, if the CB board allow this
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Well it’s good you’re taking the time to process as much info as you can, just seems odd to run DHB for a second cycle. I’ve heard the PIP is pretty bad with it. You might just want to keep it simple with choosing a couple of the main injectables. But whatever you choose to do, keep us posted please.
 
Brbpuppy said:
Well it’s good you’re taking the time to process as much info as you can, just seems odd to run DHB for a second cycle. I’ve heard the PIP is pretty bad with it. You might just want to keep it simple with choosing a couple of the main injectables. But whatever you choose to do, keep us posted please.
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I just dont like what I read about water bulking like dbol stuff and others similar.

Want to dry, quality building muscle.
With an energy boost during blast.
At my age and my metabolism, I get fat easy and fast.
Not sure if u saw about my post about my tolerance level to extremely high, so I follow some how what the vets suggests and taking in consideration my condition, so I listen and experiment same time, until I found " the formulas" that suit my metabolism and dry quality gain goals

I will definitely post my cycle and progress and blood

I certainly appreciate everyone feefback
 
silant76 said:
I just dont like what I read about water bulking like dbol stuff and others similar.

Want to dry, quality building muscle.
With an energy boost during blast.
At my age and my metabolism, I get fat easy and fast.
Not sure if u saw about my post about my tolerance level to extremely high, so I follow some how what the vets suggests and taking in consideration my condition, so I listen and experiment same time, until I found " the formulas" that suit my metabolism and dry quality gain goals

I will definitely post my cycle and progress and blood

I certainly appreciate everyone feefback
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You could always run test and eq if you wanted. I just haven't read crazy promising stuff about DHB and don't see many guys running it either.

The fat gain is likely from over eating and diet. If you cut down on your current bodyfat before your cycle you'll find it easy to stay lean. Being overweight fucks up nutrient partitioning and you'll find it easier to store fat the more you already have. So in the name of less fat and better muscle building you should cut down before the cycle. Dry steroids won't prevent fat gain same as how wet steroids won't cause it
 
Jestopherson said:
You could always run test and eq if you wanted. I just haven't read crazy promising stuff about DHB and don't see many guys running it either.

The fat gain is likely from over eating and diet. If you cut down on your current bodyfat before your cycle you'll find it easy to stay lean. Being overweight fucks up nutrient partitioning and you'll find it easier to store fat the more you already have. So in the name of less fat and better muscle building you should cut down before the cycle. Dry steroids won't prevent fat gain same as how wet steroids won't cause it
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Sorry brother, I think that my English must be very bad, I am not talking about fat at all.
I am talking about water retention and bloating that can contributes also to high BP.
I want to do a slow and quality muscle building without the water bloating.
Simple like this.

I thought about EQ like you say and i totally agree, also Tren A, Primo are all in the same direction.
But at this time, with all what I red on dhb, match the direction I'm aiming for
 
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