I really liked the ag1 as well, the only issue I had was maybe one or two of the ingredients that I actually wanted were under dosed. Coq10 and magnesium I think we're the main ones, I ended up buying it monthly along with regular magnesium, coq10, fish oil etc and thought why bother. What I did like though I messaged them to buy another year supply of d3. They don't sell it it's only promotional but they mailed me another one for free.Multi-vitamin, kind of…Ag1 / athletic greens. Like @Bigbear I also take fish oil (high epa), NAC, CoQ10, magnesium, D3/K2. Pro and pre biotic from the AG1.
a Centrum or Animal pack type vitamin, no.
Is 3x the limit necessarily a bad thing ? I remember hearing that crazy old fuk John McAfee used to max dose inj b12 as some kind of game changer to his survival while being an intense alcoholic druggah. I've Inj b12 quite a few times over the years but not with any kind of life altering results I just thought it was neat at like 21 lol and my buddy was administering to old ladies as a ridiculous side hustle to fuck old ladies .... thems where the days fukn gettin old boysI'd say it's only a game changer if your deficient but maybe some other dudes know more
So you feel like a million bucks or what bro ? Is this the patented CoolRick God formula ??... notable regiment BTW I love taking slews of vitamins lol I get nuts about it then fall back to just a multi d3 omega Magnesium standardHere's a bit more in-depth with my stack
Right now I'm using
x2= twice daily
Life extension multi x2
Vitamin D3 (additional 7500IU)
Nattokinase 8000FU split
Kirkland Atlantic salmon omega 3 x2
Evening primrose oil x2
Ubiqinol 200mg
Life extension selenium complex
Vitamin e oil
Zinc citrate (additional 100mg)
Copper 200mcg
Nac 1000mg x2
Milk thistle x2
Magnesium x2
P5P 100mg before bed
I may be missing something but that should be it.
Hahah, a lot of this started by going off of Vigorous Steve's year round supplement stack. I just started with a multi and built things up from there, aiming for the best quality wherever possible.So you feel like a million bucks or what bro ? Is this the patented CoolRick God formula ??... notable regiment BTW I love taking slews of vitamins lol I get nuts about it then fall back to just a multi d3 omega Magnesium standard
I'm not sure actually. Good point though their standards are probably from a large sample of unhealthy people. Usually optimal ranges are far above standard ranges. I just figured I was deficient originally and then being 3 times the limit from an average daily dose, my body must not have been using much of it so why bother lolIs 3x the limit necessarily a bad thing ? I remember hearing that crazy old fuk John McAfee used to max dose inj b12 as some kind of game changer to his survival while being an intense alcoholic druggah. I've Inj b12 quite a few times over the years but not with any kind of life altering results I just thought it was neat at like 21 lol and my buddy was administering to old ladies as a ridiculous side hustle to fuck old ladies .... thems where the days fukn gettin old boys
I'm the same way, I go hard with vitamins during cycles and heavy training seasons then cut back in winters or whenever. All in all I probably go heavy half the year then cut it back to fish oil, d3 and magnesium. I would stay on them year round but it's just so expensiveSo you feel like a million bucks or what bro ? Is this the patented CoolRick God formula ??... notable regiment BTW I love taking slews of vitamins lol I get nuts about it then fall back to just a multi d3 omega Magnesium standard
Thats interesting. I never thought of cutting back when I'm off cycle. My reasoning is 1) now it's time to heal/ get healthier and 2)i still continue to train as hard as i can and with just my own test in my system I need everything to be as optimal as possible.I'm the same way, I go hard with vitamins during cycles and heavy training seasons then cut back in winters or whenever. All in all I probably go heavy half the year then cut it back to fish oil, d3 and magnesium. I would stay on them year round but it's just so expensive
Yeah exactly rightI'm the same way, I go hard with vitamins during cycles and heavy training seasons then cut back in winters or whenever. All in all I probably go heavy half the year then cut it back to fish oil, d3 and magnesium. I would stay on them year round but it's just so expensive
Yeah I'm pretty sure our standard nominal ranges are all fuckin bullshit just like T I remember a few years ago I got tested and I forget exactly the numbers but I was just barely in the normal zone for an 80 yr old I'm 35 at that point and the doctor still gave me a bunch of bullshit run aroundI'm not sure actually. Good point though their standards are probably from a large sample of unhealthy people. Usually optimal ranges are far above standard ranges. I just figured I was deficient originally and then being 3 times the limit from an average daily dose, my body must not have been using much of it so why bother lol
I question a lot of the crap as well - I am a firm believer in Vit D but you absolutely do not need injectable. Vitamin B is better, especially some of the B's in injectable form. Vets make a nice Vitamin B complex that is injectable, but be prepared for PIP. Like @Hussell - I just ask pharmacists for injectable B-12 and B-6 without a script, if the egotistical gent or lady is on a power trip and asks you to get a script, I just ask if this is a product that requires it by Canadian law and what high to you get by taking too much and what damage can you do? Still if you piss them off, they have the control so I keep to medical points and hope for the best.Not to take anything away from you @Jabroni , good post as far as the subject matter goes
My opinion which I'll leave for ya'll to investigate yourselves because, you know, it's just my opinion but this dan guy is a fucking scambag fraud loser. I wouldn't trust a thing he says based on past performance. I don't know about how he is recently but a leopard doesn't often change his spots in my experience.
I will add that personality and morals don't trump fact so he well may be accurate in what he is saying here I just don't care to hear about it from this dude .
I see you like Life Extensions too - one of my preferred brand. I like NOW too. There are lots of others but my Naturopathic friends indicate both NOW and LE are good options. St. Francis is well known as well but locally it is ridiculously priced.Here's a bit more in-depth with my stack
Right now I'm using
x2= twice daily
Life extension multi x2
Vitamin D3 (additional 7500IU)
Nattokinase 8000FU split
Kirkland Atlantic salmon omega 3 x2
Evening primrose oil x2
Ubiqinol 200mg
Life extension selenium complex
Vitamin e oil
Zinc citrate (additional 100mg)
Copper 200mcg
Nac 1000mg x2
Milk thistle x2
Magnesium x2
P5P 100mg before bed
I may be missing something but that should be it.
Hmm as far as liver protection goes? I rarely use orals or drink so NAC is just something I use prophylactically. Milk thistle I included in my post because I just happened to have some at home and I threw it in but it's not something I stick to. A lot of my stack I created before starting PED use seriously, as I wanted to have solid nutrition and supplementation first.I see you like Life Extensions too - one of my preferred brand. I like NOW too. There are lots of others but my Naturopathic friends indicate both NOW and LE are good options. St. Francis is well known as well but locally it is ridiculously priced.
Clearly, you know what your doing but if you will indulge me for liver protection, I also cycle off and off NAC but gave up on milk thistle unless it had PC in it as the bioavailbility is horrible.
I studied liver and supplements/food - did more trial and blood tests and spent thousands because Mono attacked my liver. I can't even take 10 mg of Oxandrolone without my ALT hitting the roof. Just a few cheap suggestions that have science and are multi functional - Ginger(raw) which is super cheap at the grocery store. Just peal off a chunk the size of half your thumb, if you have big hands, and peel it and eat it - wash down with water as it can be harsh. Read about liver / ginger / inflammation - it didn't do as well as Melatonin for toxic liver exposure but beat NAC and was second to Melatonin in one study. Phosphatidyl choline - choline in general has the closest cruel study to humans on baboons - turning them into alcoholics which is toxic to the liver and giving one group high choline diets and one with next to none. Everyone with no choline / PC - died. Everyone with choline lived.
I stop NAC and use SAMe all the time because of it's ability to work just as well as NAC, kill pain after a few weeks equal to celebrex, but be careful if you on antidepressants as it is script med in many countries for depression. It is expensive but Vitacost has it on in the US for 1/4 of the price of Canada in 400 mg tabs vs 200 mg tabs here even with the conversion depending on the time of year.
Just info my friend - any reason you don't take Astragalus? One of the best for protecting your kidneys and is a potent adaptogen? One of the few, like SAMe which have become almost year round supplements. I consider it a must but some people who are already on anti-depressants or medicaton that impact your brain chemicals may want to talk to a doctor/naturopath.
morning @CoolRick - the old saying was choline and inositol squeezed the fat out of your liver and was popular. I found it no better than Phosphatidyl Choline which is recommended specifically for liver issues. Not to say the C and I won't work and maybe I should do it again before my next liver ultrasound. I just didn't find any real science or studies behind it - very possible I did not find them. I know choline is good for your liver.Hmm as far as liver protection goes? I rarely use orals or drink so NAC is just something I use prophylactically. Milk thistle I included in my post because I just happened to have some at home and I threw it in but it's not something I stick to. A lot of my stack I created before starting PED use seriously, as I wanted to have solid nutrition and supplementation first.
I heard something about Franco Columbo recommending choline and inositol to have a really clean liver but I couldn't really find anything on dosages. I found NAC instead and just stuck to that. Like I said orals and drinking are two things I don't really mess with so liver health isn't something I'm too concerned about. I dont know much about astragalus or sAME but if you could point me in the right direction for any of these it would be greatly appreciated. The same goes for any of the other supplements or foods you may recommend.
If ginger can do that, absolutely I will check it out. I grew up with my parents boiling and drinking ginger tea daily. I occasionally do drink some myself. As you can probably tell I'm willing to spend the money on these supplements and use them year round, but I'm open for ways to save money and do things more efficiently.
I love the topic of supplementation, and I'm open to new ones. The most recent was substituting K2 for nattokinase. It's more money but the evidence for reversing atherosclerosis was enough for me to make it part of my stack.
This is great information. I definitely have some homework to do now haha. Thanks @Goldenrod for the detailed response.morning @CoolRick - the old saying was choline and inositol squeezed the fat out of your liver and was popular. I found it no better than Phosphatidyl Choline which is recommended specifically for liver issues. Not to say the C and I won't work and maybe I should do it again before my next liver ultrasound. I just didn't find any real science or studies behind it - very possible I did not find them. I know choline is good for your liver.
Astragalus is known to help eGFR numbers and be kidney healthy. I posted a study in the health section plus in general it is good for dealing with stress hormones (adaptogen) and fighting off colds/flues. You can get it at any supplement store. sAME - (S-adenosyl-L-methionine) is also at supplement stores but they come in 200 mg tabs (30) and are expensive in Canada. I would prefer to support local but I go to Vitacost where you get 60 tabs in blister packs of 400 mg for less than 200 mg of 30 tabs in Canada. There is a conversion (US bucks) and an international shipping fee so I often grab a lot and a few other regular supplements I take to make it worth while. For my weight I take a minimum of 800 mg's and have taken 1200 mg's multiple times.
I did the math and there is no comparison. Just be careful with sAME - I find no reaction to it and it did as well as Celebrex for pain after a few weeks but due to the fact it is used as an antidepressant in many countries and is script only - if your on anything that impacts your brain chemicals, check with your doc an experienced Naturopath. I am not on any antidepressants so I have no real life experience.
Some people can't stomach raw ginger as parts of the root is very pungent - strong but the studies show it is much better than the powder. All the same - I would still take the powder if I couldn't take raw. It is super cheap and showed promise in saving livers from toxic substances.
If you look natural anti-inflammatory - ginger is usually in the top 3.
Morning @CoolRick - I can not find it in the Naturopathic books I have but they are 1000's of pages so I just did a quick search. No conclusive proof in these papers but worth a read as it points in the direction of choline/inositol - muscle growth, less adipose tissue in the liver, etc. Note the names they use and the specific forms of inositol they used. a quick google search and you can find out where you can get it.Hmm as far as liver protection goes? I rarely use orals or drink so NAC is just something I use prophylactically. Milk thistle I included in my post because I just happened to have some at home and I threw it in but it's not something I stick to. A lot of my stack I created before starting PED use seriously, as I wanted to have solid nutrition and supplementation first.
I heard something about Franco Columbo recommending choline and inositol to have a really clean liver but I couldn't really find anything on dosages. I found NAC instead and just stuck to that. Like I said orals and drinking are two things I don't really mess with so liver health isn't something I'm too concerned about. I dont know much about astragalus or sAME but if you could point me in the right direction for any of these it would be greatly appreciated. The same goes for any of the other supplements or foods you may recommend.
If ginger can do that, absolutely I will check it out. I grew up with my parents boiling and drinking ginger tea daily. I occasionally do drink some myself. As you can probably tell I'm willing to spend the money on these supplements and use them year round, but I'm open for ways to save money and do things more efficiently.
I love the topic of supplementation, and I'm open to new ones. The most recent was substituting K2 for nattokinase. It's more money but the evidence for reversing atherosclerosis was enough for me to make it part of my stack.
Good morning @GoldenrodMorning @CoolRick - I can not find it in the Naturopathic books I have but they are 1000's of pages so I just did a quick search. No conclusive proof in these papers but worth a read as it points in the direction of choline/inositol - muscle growth, less adipose tissue in the liver, etc. Note the names they use and the specific forms of inositol they used. a quick google search and you can find out where you can get it.
Inositol and Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease: A Systematic Review on Deficiencies and Supplementation - PMC
Liver lipid accumulation is a hallmark of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD), broadly associated with insulin resistance. Inositols (INS) are ubiquitous polyols implied in many physiological functions. They are produced endogenously, are ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.govThe effect of choline and myo-inositol on liver and carcass fat levels in aerobically trained rats - PubMed
Choline and myo-inositol are dietary supplements ingested under the premise that they facilitate the burning of stored fat. Choline and myo-inositol have been shown to prevent abnormal or excessive liver accumulation of cholesterol and triglycerides in choline and myoinositol deficient rats. The...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Where to get Pinitol as many online supplement stores don't carry it:
Just info you may find interesting. I am sure you can find it many places. When local stores are ridiculously expensive, I usually check out a few sites I like.