Need Advice for a recomp cycle.
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The sad part is that's the case with a lot of people out there.I feel bad for the kid — he’s so focused on what car to drive (PEDs), he doesn’t realize he doesn’t even have the directions to get to his destination (diet)
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As someone with first hand experience of being young and hoping on at a young age don’t do it yet. Focus on your diet and training and I guarantee you will see great results. Play around with your training and experiment to see what’ll work best for you and focus on getting your meals in. Down the road if you’re serious about this and can adhere to this lifestyle then I would consider test only. If you have any questions about dieting and training you can message me I’d be happy to help
I did the diet wrong as in an aggressive cut and aggresive bulk, and doing that witht peds leads to excessive fat gain on a bulk and excessive muscle loss on a cut. I have pretty good self control I was able to cut cals by 1000 and stick with it consistently for 13 weeks and lost a little bit more than 20lbs, but it sadly wasn't enough to get lean because of how fat I got on a bulk and i was losing muscle while cutting so hard, and i was absolutely burnt out by then, gave myself a little time to reset and now im planning on going back on the cut but with some anabolics to maybe make or keep the gains i made natty.
Honestly, im so lost man. Everyday feels like a week and all i think about is how much work I can do to look good enough for myself. I might lose a bunch of muscle cutting again on this cycle and need to take more gear so I though of taking another cycle in the fall. I can tell myself im not in the right headspace trying to make years worth of progress in a couple months but even while putting in work daily im always thinking of more I can do. It's all I think about whenever I have time to think. I wouldn't try to lie on purpose when I came looking for advice. Sorry if thats how it came off.
nah I got lucky, I didn't stop growing after puberty. if i can drop a number lmk and ill tell you to make it more clear. Not a minor if that's what your worried about. (just barely)
bro im a tubby lil skinny fat kid, the only reason I bulked when i started is cause people said the same thing when I started no point of cutting at 90lbs without taking into account my bodyfat. Obviously ill put money that you are more knowledgeable than me at diet, training etc, but i've already tried similar advice.
I eat whatever as long as it fits in my calories/macros. i dirty bulked so really just fast food and snacks and then for the cut I dirty cut so I would hit my protein first with super lean meat like chicken breast which was 500cals and then eat 1000cals worth of bullshit then i would starve for the rest of the day and then if i was still hungry and tired I would take adderall and some days I would do xanax. I dont drink tho. Not sure if that applies to the diet question. On a side note adderall is expensive 8 bucks for 1 and I gotta get it shipped from the US cause finding someone with IR here is impossible and even if you do their prices r so jacked up its not even worth it.
Shit buddy i know what the grinds like but you cant keep doing all that, you'll have to clean up your diet and quit the drugs or you won't be around long enough to get big. You shouldn't need adderall unless you have adhd and if that's the case just go get accessed. I'd advise getting some blood work done check your liver cholesterol and everything and clean it up ASAP. Clean eatings easy and cheap just load up the rice and veggies at every meal once your protein targets hit.
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I've put up my age numerous times it hasn't been an issue.
Either way you sound too young and inexperienced to be playing with PEDs. Finish growing, focus on your diet and training for a few years then come back to it.
I was 150 pounds when I hit the first weight rack at 16 I hit 205 by 19 with no gear . No excuses you need to eat and spend a few years growing first . If you can’t figure out really basic stuff like that you have no business doing gear . Blasting gear is what got me from 205 to 250 at my max . It is completely unnecessary at your weight
i turned 19 2 weeks ago.
I dont feel like advice that worked for you, and im just assuming but u were prob a skinny hard gainer will apply to me sadly. I put on fat generally much more easily than other, so eating 4000cals and expecting it to all turn into muscle is basically impossbile. Pretty sure my training is fine I hit 12 sets weekly on every muscle and train to failure on every set, but even with the diet I can gain fat really easily on a 400-500cal surplus while tracking it.
Feel free to DM me and we can discuss strategies to get you on the right path if you’re interested.
GENT.
Was in your position once, and I can offer the same as @BanditNOLIMIT, if you want some solid starting advice Im willing to help.
Feel free to DM. Will not tell you what to do but maybe get you on an "educated" path.
Dude you are probably doing multiple things wrong. Just by the words and phrases you use I'll risk speaking for more than myself and say that I'm sure a few of us here have already lumped you into a few certain stereotypical categories. One of those categories contains an element called "knows just enough to be dangerous". Take one of theses offers of help or hire a coach. The time you save eliminating misconceptions alone will be worth it and i think you have a few that need eliminating, this shit is full of nuances.
I'm not throwing you an offer but 135lbs seems to be a common leveling point for some YOUNG guys and I have put 40 lbs on many such guys in a year or a year and a half NATTY (as a trainer). 170-175 seems to be another levelling point for smaller framed guys, I'd bet you are a good fit for just such a jump if you really care about this as much as your letting on.
I didn't say that to brag about what a great coach I am, I said it because if you have someone experienced to walk you through it, set you on a good path routine and diet wise and avoid wasteful practices and hold you accountable (call you out straight and honest on bullshit) there is a good chance you can do it too. There are plenty of guys here who can get you through those first stages. There are a few that have offered it for free and there are some paid GOOD coaches too. I emphasize the word good there because out in the world there are tons who shouldn't be coaching but will gladly take your money.
A lot of stories that start out here the way yours did end when the OP gets real answers that he doesn't like and so doesn't come back. I honestly thought you were gone after a few days. The fact your back and not being a dickhead is a great sign. Maybe set a 5 year Goal and then a series of smaller realistic ones that work towards it. Write them down with a pen and paper, don't tell anyone IRL. 3months straight on a really good diet and lifting program is a good first intermediate goal. Picking a coach/mentor by Friday would be a good very first one, 190lbs with 16 inch arms and 32 inch waste would be good 5 year example, stuff like that
Best to you
(Dad mode isn't always mad)
I have kept out of this as I find it hard to fathom being 19, you refer to yourself as a kid and your not a kid, you are relying on PED's to accomplish goals (which I understand) but is a short term fix. You claim to be 90 lbs I think (If I am wrong - apologies, but how can anyone be 90 lbs unless they are 4 feet tall and I'm not throwing dirt at you - I just can't fathom being that light).
You have to be able to train and gain/cut without PED's albeit many will add them in with time. Do yourself a favour, and save your money on steroids and hire @Funnyman. He competes, is full of knowledge, and is very reasonable for what you get.
He will teach you the basics so you grow without PED's and it is up to him if he discusses PED's with you. I have been lifting for decades but I hired him, to think I know as much as he does is arrogant. He is a health conscious coach, and low on the PED's for anyone experienced lifting. Fits my goals as I don't take much of anything.
Everyone can learn from someone else no matter how advanced you are. To date, fighting through two injuries which are pretty much healed, I have dropped 15 lbs with his recommendations just with diet. It costs more to eat well/healthy but it is worth it. I wanted to lean out for a competition before I put weight back on and yes, I use PED's. I am on TRT and I add in a little (100-150 mg of Primo a week), supplements and eat and train. I didn't think I would ever be able to get below 220 without starving myself, but he listened, asked questions, and developed a health conscious diet on a deficit. Anyway, this isn't about me - this is about you but the point is he can help.
Wish you the best luck and if everything you have been posting is true and you are lost, forget everything and PM him, he does not charge anything unreasonable, and you are learning from someone who has been through it all.
No disprespect to all the experienced members here offering help as they have tons of experience too but with Funnyman - you paid for help, and to date (and I still have lots of time with him), I feel I have got my money's worth.
Just an opinion - you do what you feel is best and best of luck in your venture.
As far as goals go the real question is what does OP even want to look like? Most of the younger guys I meet want a physique that's probably 170-175lbs (5'9-5'11 with a small frame) and 10-12% BF. I don't think they realize how big that actually is though.
Funnyman has helped guide me a few times over the past 6 years or so and the way I eat has changed dramatically for the better. Now I just eat that way comfortably and life is good whether I'm on or off. Solid advice everytime and a measured approach to peds which I greatly appreciate as I tend to err on the side of caution naturally anyway when It comes to them
To the OP - you know the issue. It's DIET as repeated by others here. Dial it in. It's the true magic of it all. Many here are happy to help