I'm going to be totally open and honest so please don't flame me too hard. Ive been lifting for 2 years, but basically got the diet all wrong. I started skinny fat at 90lbs 5'5 and got up to a peak weight of 160lbs dirty bulking, I then went into an aggressive cut abusing peptides like reta, triz and fat burners like t3 and clen. basically to sum it up after 2 years of lifting im 5'8, 135lbs and look like i've never touched a weight. Lost a bunch of muscle and amn't even lean arnd 20-22% bf (I was 30%) when i was 90lbs. So i've decided to use some AAS to help build back my muscle and lose some weight, I'm kinda stupid so i pinned 150tren for 2 weeks but I think im going to hop off and try to play it a little safer with a test only cycle (since its my first one). Should i focus on cutting or building muscle? I'm not a bodybuilder I just really hate how i look and i've hated it for the past 6years. My friend told me to drop the tren and runner higher test and go into a small surplus and I should lose some fat while building some muscle to fill out my frame cause I am super underdeveloped and only having lifted for 2 years doesn't hurt me. I'm planning on bumping the test up to 500 and going all the way up to 800 depending how I react, if i need ill add an AI or EQ at 400mg. I know it's a long game but I just want to run 1 cycle to be happy with my body and then ill probably never run one again. Any Advice is appreciated.
Need Advice for a recomp cycle.
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You need to focus on a meal plan, and as for a cycle i did 200mg depo test pharm grade and added some good weight.
You start low and slowly increase the dose with every cycle.
My first test run, I added 13 pounds was very impressive and the strength was unreal.
You start low and slowly increase the dose with every cycle.
My first test run, I added 13 pounds was very impressive and the strength was unreal.
not sure im allowed to say but ill say significantly younger than you and i'm still growing.
So you're still going through puberty?
I think there's a lot of guys here who had this idea in their head when they got into it. And here they still are.
The cosmetic look you get from doing a cycle will not stay forever. If you hate yourself now but love what you get from your cycle. It surely won't be your only cycle.
I cant shit on you for for your desires. But I think you have the wrong approach.
I do hope you find a way to let go of the hate sooner than later.
Even with my cycles, my lifting and consistency.. 50/50 shit talk and praise when I look in the mirror. You're on a long road.
People make things way too complicated. Ask yourself one real question: is your tongue—your taste, your cravings—running your life? If it is, own it, and settle for being average. But if you’re the one calling the shots, then welcome to the rest of your life.
Here’s what you wanna do man get a good diet and follow it for a year. And when you can do that and add 20-40 lbs the right way, that’s you can start thinking about gear. Don’t killl yourself for nothing . Also , and not being rude unless you are 4 feet tall you have no business cutting at that weight . Your 5’8” get your weight up to 180lb -200 and than start cutting
You'll never be happy with your body it's dismorphia we all said just one cycle. The only way to ever do it is a good training program and better diet. Clean bulk don't cut or recomp at that weight but keep health in mind for your future. If you dirty bulk now you could just become diabetic or have a heart attack in the future when your finally happier with results. I've seen people take the strongest drugs and get no results because diet and training were off. If your young you shouldn't even need drugs. Puberty is like a testosterone cycle your bodys growing you just need to feed it and shape it.
Good catch. Unless OP can prove us wrong I’m assuming they’re under the age of 18. For that reason I morally can’t come to terms with providing advice on drug use…
I second this
Shit, forget morals, I have a problem giving advice to anyone these days. The amount of skinny fat guys eating 2000cal trying to grow raises my blood pressure
. FFS it's not drugs that makes you grow it's food!!!
Ok rant done
. Also, a picture of Lee Priest eating KFC. 
I don't mind giving advice but I've accepted the fact that 99% of the time I'm wasting my time. But if I can help that 1% it's kinda worth it.Shit, forget morals, I have a problem giving advice to anyone these days. The amount of skinny fat guys eating 2000cal trying to grow raises my blood pressure
FFS it's not drugs that makes you grow it's food!!!
Ok rant done
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It's definitely annoying though when people are ignorant to how much work this shit is. There will always be genetic outliers that can skip out on some variables and make tremendous progress, but it seems to take alot of people WAY too long to realize that they're not that person.
Ahh see i haven't quite accepted it yet hence my pain lol.
You're 100% right. A lot of people end up following people more genetically adept and end up with nothing. I've had my training partner mimic what he thinks I do drug wise and he's made very little progress.
I'm no genetic freak but shit sometimes I go back and read what I'm writing and I realize afterwards most of what I'm saying won't work for most people.
We are generally a polite bunch and will still be considered a generally polite bunch after my post because one rude post won't throw the balance off too much so here goes. I like to call this Dad Mode.
Your mental problem with your body and how you deal with it is the biggest problem and needs the most priority and effort.
It's fucking stupid to be juicing at this point, get your eating under control ffs.
It's fucking stupid to try to do one cycle and think someone with your genetics will get some kind of long lasting effect and satisfaction from it.
It's even stupider to think that you are gonna ever be proud of you body if you don't commit to taking care of it long term, it's a fucking lifestyle not a summer lark.
Wrap your head around the fact that you just might never have a great build but so fucking what! Just get healthy !
Conversely get uber healthy, commit to it and exercise regularly and you might surprise yourself with a decent physique. It would be better to be healthy and capable, skip the drugs and have an average build than to do all the harm and stress to your body that AAS do and still be weak and look like shit again by christmas when you give up.
Just get healthy dude, especially the mental kind, it'll lead to a healthier body. If in a few years you do actually make some progress physique wise as a byproduct then you can reassess your next move.
You can get all the diet and exercise advice here you'll ever need.
Your mental problem with your body and how you deal with it is the biggest problem and needs the most priority and effort.
It's fucking stupid to be juicing at this point, get your eating under control ffs.
It's fucking stupid to try to do one cycle and think someone with your genetics will get some kind of long lasting effect and satisfaction from it.
It's even stupider to think that you are gonna ever be proud of you body if you don't commit to taking care of it long term, it's a fucking lifestyle not a summer lark.
Wrap your head around the fact that you just might never have a great build but so fucking what! Just get healthy !
Conversely get uber healthy, commit to it and exercise regularly and you might surprise yourself with a decent physique. It would be better to be healthy and capable, skip the drugs and have an average build than to do all the harm and stress to your body that AAS do and still be weak and look like shit again by christmas when you give up.
Just get healthy dude, especially the mental kind, it'll lead to a healthier body. If in a few years you do actually make some progress physique wise as a byproduct then you can reassess your next move.
You can get all the diet and exercise advice here you'll ever need.
I hate to post again after I already said my piece but I noticed in another thread you were saving Deca for your fall bulking cycle? Seems like this tren and test cycle you have going on isn't your one and only cycle after all?
Was that really your plan or just some crap you fed into your post to try to make your excessively early entrance into gear with the strongest compound seem like less of a bad idea since it was 'just one', but I don't think you even believed that now after seeing that you already have a fall bulk in mind incorporating Deca.
I too won't give you any advice other than good luck.
Oh and be honest. With yourself and the people you're asking for help around here.
Was that really your plan or just some crap you fed into your post to try to make your excessively early entrance into gear with the strongest compound seem like less of a bad idea since it was 'just one', but I don't think you even believed that now after seeing that you already have a fall bulk in mind incorporating Deca.
I too won't give you any advice other than good luck.
Oh and be honest. With yourself and the people you're asking for help around here.