Don’t cut back unless you are getting fat. You’ll lose muscle gains that way IMO
My citadel t400,deca&eq blast
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Enjoy the pip, lol.
Lol yea i later on discovered people who reported it with no to little pip said they had mixed it with other oils to dilute it. But doing dhb on a cruise... A cc of dhb+ 0.4 of a cc of test, based on what i read would not be enough to dilute the pip lol. Still wanna try it on a blast maybe next year or something though, when im doing enoughto dilute it
If i could rock bald i would.... but its a much needed detail to make me look good lol
Random question though, if certain steroids like 5 alphas cause hairloss, and when you stop them your hair is suppose to grow back. Thenwhy are so many long term aas users bald?
If i could rock bald i would.... but its a much needed detail to make me look good lol
lmao
So i was gunna wait till tomorrow to post a update, because its the day i step on the scale. But i got the day off from both jobs n its raining.
So this last week has been night n day compared to the week before.
Its all starting to show itself i believe, like 85% of the esters im taking are decanate or undecanate so its felt like forever waiting to see/feel something happen.
Is sweating a lot common with eq? Its nothing like tren, where im sweeting bullets just for slightly twisting my body and holding for a vglute shot, but its still insane compared to normal.
Idk if i gained weight this week, my diet was off a few days, i still was on a surplus or at least maintenance forthose days, so maybe a bit will be added on the scale.
I switched from assisted lifting like the smythe machine and other machines and have switched completely to barbell and/ or db, or bodyweight....beside a couple isolation exersizes. Lifts seem like a breeze.
When i look in the mirror i just feel like its more of a firmer buildthen whats been happening lately.
So it took a while for it all to kick in, to the point i was getting a bit restless, to now i know this is some legit stuff
Ill post if ive gained anything tomorrow
My goal has been 2 pounds a week which if u break it into an average its higher then that so far
So this last week has been night n day compared to the week before.
Its all starting to show itself i believe, like 85% of the esters im taking are decanate or undecanate so its felt like forever waiting to see/feel something happen.
Is sweating a lot common with eq? Its nothing like tren, where im sweeting bullets just for slightly twisting my body and holding for a vglute shot, but its still insane compared to normal.
Idk if i gained weight this week, my diet was off a few days, i still was on a surplus or at least maintenance forthose days, so maybe a bit will be added on the scale.
I switched from assisted lifting like the smythe machine and other machines and have switched completely to barbell and/ or db, or bodyweight....beside a couple isolation exersizes. Lifts seem like a breeze.
When i look in the mirror i just feel like its more of a firmer buildthen whats been happening lately.
So it took a while for it all to kick in, to the point i was getting a bit restless, to now i know this is some legit stuff
Ill post if ive gained anything tomorrow
My goal has been 2 pounds a week which if u break it into an average its higher then that so far
So ive only gained .8 pounds this week.
But my chest and arms are a bit bigger, and my stomach is a bit slimmer.
My legs are the same though
So does eq make you guys sweat a lot?
I been sweating a shit ton.
I googled it and some people report the same; sweating more when on eq.
So it could be eq is starting to shine, me shedding some bloat and water, while gaining poundage,
or it could just be minimal gains, since i only ate about maintenance those few days.
Im going to up my calories by 200
I will say my strength is increasing very quick too.
O and i switched my routine a bit
Day 1-big chest, small tri's
Day 2-legs
Day 3-big back, small chest
Day 4-off
Day 5-big chest (no tri's)
Day 6-legs
Day 7-big back/small chest
Day 8- big shoulders/small bi's
Day9-off
Day 10-off
Its not a huge change, added a chest to my back day, instead of bi's, switched bis to my shoulders which i now only do on the second round.
I like it but i need a new leg routine,
suggestions?
With legs i like high reps, high sets
Thx
But my chest and arms are a bit bigger, and my stomach is a bit slimmer.
My legs are the same though
So does eq make you guys sweat a lot?
I been sweating a shit ton.
I googled it and some people report the same; sweating more when on eq.
So it could be eq is starting to shine, me shedding some bloat and water, while gaining poundage,
or it could just be minimal gains, since i only ate about maintenance those few days.
Im going to up my calories by 200
I will say my strength is increasing very quick too.
O and i switched my routine a bit
Day 1-big chest, small tri's
Day 2-legs
Day 3-big back, small chest
Day 4-off
Day 5-big chest (no tri's)
Day 6-legs
Day 7-big back/small chest
Day 8- big shoulders/small bi's
Day9-off
Day 10-off
Its not a huge change, added a chest to my back day, instead of bi's, switched bis to my shoulders which i now only do on the second round.
I like it but i need a new leg routine,
suggestions?
With legs i like high reps, high sets
Thx
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EQ has never made me sweat. It has made many people anxious and many others hungry.
For your routine, here's my $0.02 to start... please feel free to ignore it if you like.
Maybe I'm too old now but I honestly don't know how you can do several days of major muscle groups (with compound movements) back-to-back without a day off in-between and then hit them again after three days.
I don't know the exercises, weights you use, reps or sets but if it works for you then okay... but you might want to revisit this.
For example, if you are going to have a day off then a day off after legs would definitely be a good idea. A day off after back is also a really good idea.
Remember, you recover and grow when you rest and eat.
For your routine, here's my $0.02 to start... please feel free to ignore it if you like.
Maybe I'm too old now but I honestly don't know how you can do several days of major muscle groups (with compound movements) back-to-back without a day off in-between and then hit them again after three days.
I don't know the exercises, weights you use, reps or sets but if it works for you then okay... but you might want to revisit this.
For example, if you are going to have a day off then a day off after legs would definitely be a good idea. A day off after back is also a really good idea.
Remember, you recover and grow when you rest and eat.
Yea totally i get that, for a bit there i was making sure back was friday and legs on saturday, because my side job i lift 85-105pound bricks/slabs stackem, fillem with crush, mix n lay concrete ect. Super labour intensive job...... it was suppose to be a 70k 8week job but now its about 200k and theres no end in sight with all the extras lol.....so i wanted my back day to be followed by no work but just a legs day whichwoukd also be followed by no work and no gym for a day.... but as the weeks have gone on i have began to adjust it a bit.
A few years back my workout partner n i would do a "big" something with a "small" something and hit each muscle 2x a week. But now im basically doing it based on the results i want.
So i have a small chest day with my back day but mainly its to isolate the one side, so i am mainly doing isolation exersizes for chestthis day not compund,i have a ribcage issue its like one side is from like a different body, which causes my right sid to cave in like 2 finger thicknesses, so the idea is to try to get that side to catch up, n it has been seemingly working so far. And arms and shoulders i prefer them to be the smaller of the muscles so i switched to doing them only on the second workout split...
I have debated if i workout too much though, but it all depends on who u ask i guess. Most guys i know who juice workout 2x a day 5 days a week, cardio 7.... i think most guys do the typical workout of 5 days a week so 10-biweekly, and the 7 out if 10days i am currently doing is about the same day on/day off percentage....
But u do have me wondering about a thought i have bounced around in my head from time to time (idk if ill word this to be understood how i mean it but); like does the distance in time training a muscle to the time off affect it and if so whats the time frame.... like if u did 5 straight days then 2 days off would day 1 and day 2's growth be affected because there is still many days till your having a day off? Like one side of me says "it just makes total sense" but the other side says "then why do lots of people do their primaries at the beginning of the week and why is this not something thats commonly talked about"
A few years back my workout partner n i would do a "big" something with a "small" something and hit each muscle 2x a week. But now im basically doing it based on the results i want.
So i have a small chest day with my back day but mainly its to isolate the one side, so i am mainly doing isolation exersizes for chestthis day not compund,i have a ribcage issue its like one side is from like a different body, which causes my right sid to cave in like 2 finger thicknesses, so the idea is to try to get that side to catch up, n it has been seemingly working so far. And arms and shoulders i prefer them to be the smaller of the muscles so i switched to doing them only on the second workout split...
I have debated if i workout too much though, but it all depends on who u ask i guess. Most guys i know who juice workout 2x a day 5 days a week, cardio 7.... i think most guys do the typical workout of 5 days a week so 10-biweekly, and the 7 out if 10days i am currently doing is about the same day on/day off percentage....
But u do have me wondering about a thought i have bounced around in my head from time to time (idk if ill word this to be understood how i mean it but); like does the distance in time training a muscle to the time off affect it and if so whats the time frame.... like if u did 5 straight days then 2 days off would day 1 and day 2's growth be affected because there is still many days till your having a day off? Like one side of me says "it just makes total sense" but the other side says "then why do lots of people do their primaries at the beginning of the week and why is this not something thats commonly talked about"
For me "bigs" are 4-5workouts first workout 4 sets, the other 3-4 are 2-3sets
Smalls are 2-3workouts 2-3sets, isolation dominate
Legs always gets its own day, the fast im combining all leg muscles into one day is already enough, ive heard of people seperating them, which ive tried before, but i am having trouble remembered enough leg workouts to do it(im recovering from a concussion r.n., so that might be part of it, lol)... guess ill look some up, see which ones i can do at the shitty gym im at, then look em up n see how they actually stack up in terms of continuous stregrh building and muscle growing... re establish my understanding on which are fast twitch vs slow twitch dominate...
I usedto have this general rule that if i could walk up my stairs at the end of a legs daywithout needing the railing as an assist, cause im exhasted not in pain, then i didnt train them hard enough and i havent really felt like that recently at the end of legs day. I treat legs like shoulders though, between 25-12reps each set and a power set of 4 or 6 on a workout or two.
Smalls are 2-3workouts 2-3sets, isolation dominate
Legs always gets its own day, the fast im combining all leg muscles into one day is already enough, ive heard of people seperating them, which ive tried before, but i am having trouble remembered enough leg workouts to do it(im recovering from a concussion r.n., so that might be part of it, lol)... guess ill look some up, see which ones i can do at the shitty gym im at, then look em up n see how they actually stack up in terms of continuous stregrh building and muscle growing... re establish my understanding on which are fast twitch vs slow twitch dominate...
I usedto have this general rule that if i could walk up my stairs at the end of a legs daywithout needing the railing as an assist, cause im exhasted not in pain, then i didnt train them hard enough and i havent really felt like that recently at the end of legs day. I treat legs like shoulders though, between 25-12reps each set and a power set of 4 or 6 on a workout or two.
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Ive talked to a bunch of people who have done a workoit like this:
Upper body day
Lower body day
Day off
Upper body day
Lowerbody day
Power day
I oftendo the upper body day/lower body day split when im building a foundation, like ive had a break from the gym for a while, or completely flipping my workout routine...
Which is thesame idea they have, light weight, high reps, just keep adding that foundation then on power day they do their power lifts like :bench, squat, dead lift and shoulder press all in the same day. Theyve all seemed to like it, i want to give it a go but i dont have a workout partner r.n. so i cant give my all on a power day
Upper body day
Lower body day
Day off
Upper body day
Lowerbody day
Power day
I oftendo the upper body day/lower body day split when im building a foundation, like ive had a break from the gym for a while, or completely flipping my workout routine...
Which is thesame idea they have, light weight, high reps, just keep adding that foundation then on power day they do their power lifts like :bench, squat, dead lift and shoulder press all in the same day. Theyve all seemed to like it, i want to give it a go but i dont have a workout partner r.n. so i cant give my all on a power day
I did a full switch on legs day in terms of reps/weight amount and ordrr and added an extra workout.
Im gunna take an extra day off, today, cause i feel it now lol
Im gunna take an extra day off, today, cause i feel it now lol
Yeah, love the pain.
When I was young like you, I’d train so hard I’d be crippled the next day and if I wasn’t I’d try harder the next time.
My joints won’t allow me to train like that anymore, but the pain was my favourite part.
So i gained 2.6 piunds this week. So pretty happy with that... and im still sweating a lot, its like all the bloat ive accumulated during this blast has just shed itself off and im not even taking an a.i. r.n.!
My bench press is up a 10er on eachside this week and up 2 reps. My rows are up a 20pounder. Pullups i can do 4 more reps on my first set compared to last week.
Im digging this cycle so far. I am already thinking of my second phase, the recomp phase. I just finished or am in my 6thweek so far, so im only half way done my bulk, not even at peak levels yet and im already thinking of the recomp lol. Like 85% of the gear im taking is a deconate or undecanate ester, so peak is usually, what? 7-8weeks?
But im hoping to get another 10-12 pounds before then.
I was reading on a couple forums.
I was thinking for the recomp ill drop the deca, cut the test in half (from 400 to 200mg) keep the eq at 600 and idk if i should add 200 tren or 300-450primo...
Thoughts?
Test 200
Tren 200
Eq 600
Or
Test 200
Primo 300-450
Eq 600
And ill drop the calories to maintenance and ill have a carb load day followed by dropping my carbs down more each day for 3 days then repeat.
The benefit i see about the primo is the cardio, i could do some intermittent fasting for 2 hours in the a.m. bust out 30+mins of cardio then begin eattingthe maintenance, where as tren will kill the cardio and ill just do 15 mins on a 3.5incline at 6 on the treadmill after my workout
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So im up 13.6 pounds so far
My bench press is up a 10er on eachside this week and up 2 reps. My rows are up a 20pounder. Pullups i can do 4 more reps on my first set compared to last week.
Im digging this cycle so far. I am already thinking of my second phase, the recomp phase. I just finished or am in my 6thweek so far, so im only half way done my bulk, not even at peak levels yet and im already thinking of the recomp lol. Like 85% of the gear im taking is a deconate or undecanate ester, so peak is usually, what? 7-8weeks?
But im hoping to get another 10-12 pounds before then.
I was reading on a couple forums.
I was thinking for the recomp ill drop the deca, cut the test in half (from 400 to 200mg) keep the eq at 600 and idk if i should add 200 tren or 300-450primo...
Thoughts?
Test 200
Tren 200
Eq 600
Or
Test 200
Primo 300-450
Eq 600
And ill drop the calories to maintenance and ill have a carb load day followed by dropping my carbs down more each day for 3 days then repeat.
The benefit i see about the primo is the cardio, i could do some intermittent fasting for 2 hours in the a.m. bust out 30+mins of cardio then begin eattingthe maintenance, where as tren will kill the cardio and ill just do 15 mins on a 3.5incline at 6 on the treadmill after my workout
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So im up 13.6 pounds so far
Thanks,
yea it was just thoughts i was having, i just been reading up on the idea now and there seems to be a trend of major bp issues with the tren and eq stack. Im thinking ill just drop the deca at week 12 and keep the test n eq going for a few more weeks, idk yet if ill keep it as a full on bulk or lower it to a maintenance or just above maintenance level yet
yea it was just thoughts i was having, i just been reading up on the idea now and there seems to be a trend of major bp issues with the tren and eq stack. Im thinking ill just drop the deca at week 12 and keep the test n eq going for a few more weeks, idk yet if ill keep it as a full on bulk or lower it to a maintenance or just above maintenance level yet
I would stop the eq and deca, just run test for like 4 weeks and let it clear, then run 150 mg of tren a week, change your foods, same calories, but more protien, less carbs and leave in the fats.
I am getting leaner and gaining weight, and I’m almost 51.
use black seed oil to control your bp. It really works. I take it twice a day 500 mg each time.
Where would someone find blackseed oil?
I was thinking if it begins to rise add insome 81mg asprin. Im already taking coq10, b vitamins, omegas and some other thing i cant remember. I also was going to go back to adding dialy cialis, i stopped because the hard ons when i would go chill in the hot tub at the leisure centre, couldnt leave even if i wanted to lol. The things these young girls are wearing now, the worst part about it is its just the style now a days. Backwhen a girl dressed like a slut u knew she was a slut, now thats not the case
Asprin didn’t work for me. You can buy black seed oil off of Amazon.Where would someone find blackseed oil?
I was thinking if it begins to rise add insome 81mg asprin. Im already taking coq10, b vitamins, omegas and some other thing i cant remember. I also was going to go back to adding dialy cialis, i stopped because the hard ons when i would go chill in the hot tub at the leisure centre, couldnt leave even if i wanted to lol. The things these young girls are wearing now, the worst part about it is its just the style now a days. Backwhen a girl dressed like a slut u knew she was a slut, now thats not the case
I use cialis eod 5 mg but that is more so my prostate doesn’t swell so bad (age related thing).
But I’m not out like you are so no worries about boners. Mind you in my 30’s a breeze would give me one, so with cialis it would be far worse, lol.
Yeah, they do dress half naked, but look at the musicians and other female role models, they are contributing to this.
Mind you if they want to show off all their goods, who am I to complain?
I havent updated this in a bit. I put on another 1.6 pounds, but then i got a stomach issue the last two days, which sucks cause as of todaythe gym is ckosed 7 days for maintenance. I dont remember if i brought up my foster bro on here but hes down 9 pounds... he was 245, hes doing some sarms... rad140, mk677, and torch all from matrix. He likes it all so far. Its his first run with anything
So the gym was closedfor a bit and i was expecting to lose a bunch of weight, cause right before it closed i was a bit sick. I was up over 15 pounds at the time, dropped 1.6 pounds , but in the three days the gyms been open i put a pound back on.
My foster brother has been doing really good too. Hes down to like 233. He originallytold me he was 245 but he told me later on that 245 was his guess and he was 251. So 18 pounds in about a month. I told him how the beginning should be quite rapid but then to aim for 2 pounds a week. He still asks me 90 dumb questions a dsy but hes doin it.
I was debating to throw in some dbol for 4-5 weeks at 40-60mg a week. I have just under 4 weeks left till i drop the deca and just run the test and eq. I havent run dbol in 9 years lol
I take my shirt offat my side job cause i work outside and i was told i look like a greek god, so that was kinda funny cause i feel a bit bloated. Then the other guy called me mexican cause howbquickly ive tanned, I have a couple bags of aromasin on hand, havent felt the need to use it at all, no noticable side effects.
I also have a bunch of tne, i was thinking if i dont run the dbol, once idrop the deca to use tne as a preworkout(right before the gym closed for the week i tried it for 3 days just outts curiousity and it really makes a difference in my mental state, like my desire to push those extra reps was just like hyperfocused. Since going backto the gym after covid i was only able to do 30ish pull ups, my first set only being 11, but then all of a sudden i busted out 17 and like cleanly, confidently settled on 45 total in 3 sets so close to my typical pull up routine. This gym only has pull up bars really high, lots of people cant even jump high enough to reach them lol, so weighted pull ups are outta the question. But i figured id save it for later on, i was just curious about it.
But yea. The gym being closed affected my goal a bit. Its still do-able but i gotta really kill it. I need 2.1 pounds a week to hit the goal. Like my goal has been 2 pounds a week since the beginning but iwas killing it to where i only needed to average 1.6/week, but now losing a week and dropping that bit of weight soending these few days to gain it back has brougjt it back up
My foster brother has been doing really good too. Hes down to like 233. He originallytold me he was 245 but he told me later on that 245 was his guess and he was 251. So 18 pounds in about a month. I told him how the beginning should be quite rapid but then to aim for 2 pounds a week. He still asks me 90 dumb questions a dsy but hes doin it.
I was debating to throw in some dbol for 4-5 weeks at 40-60mg a week. I have just under 4 weeks left till i drop the deca and just run the test and eq. I havent run dbol in 9 years lol
I take my shirt offat my side job cause i work outside and i was told i look like a greek god, so that was kinda funny cause i feel a bit bloated. Then the other guy called me mexican cause howbquickly ive tanned, I have a couple bags of aromasin on hand, havent felt the need to use it at all, no noticable side effects.
I also have a bunch of tne, i was thinking if i dont run the dbol, once idrop the deca to use tne as a preworkout(right before the gym closed for the week i tried it for 3 days just outts curiousity and it really makes a difference in my mental state, like my desire to push those extra reps was just like hyperfocused. Since going backto the gym after covid i was only able to do 30ish pull ups, my first set only being 11, but then all of a sudden i busted out 17 and like cleanly, confidently settled on 45 total in 3 sets so close to my typical pull up routine. This gym only has pull up bars really high, lots of people cant even jump high enough to reach them lol, so weighted pull ups are outta the question. But i figured id save it for later on, i was just curious about it.
But yea. The gym being closed affected my goal a bit. Its still do-able but i gotta really kill it. I need 2.1 pounds a week to hit the goal. Like my goal has been 2 pounds a week since the beginning but iwas killing it to where i only needed to average 1.6/week, but now losing a week and dropping that bit of weight soending these few days to gain it back has brougjt it back up
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