MK677 confusion

neogenesis

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I am confused about the use of MK677 as I am told that it's not exactly a GH-secragog but rather a ghrelin releasing compound that makes you hungry, thus the production of GH as would happen during an intermittent fast. From what I gather, if one is looking to benefit from the GH aspect of MK677, then it should be taken at night when you aren't eating, but if you need to increase your appetite then it should be taken in the morning.

So, I am curious about those of you who have taken it, how long did you use it for, how did you find it? Would it make sense to add it to a Tren cycle instead of buying GH? Also is there a dose-response ratio to it, such that taking 20mg won't really yield much more benefit than taking 10mg?

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Michealchapman83

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It’s defiantly not gonna replace hgh haha I heard it increases natural production but it won’t be the same effect as adding real somatropin to your stack........I don’t think anyways
 

OTFJOEY

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I am confused about the use of MK677 as I am told that it's not exactly a GH-secragog but rather a ghrelin releasing compound that makes you hungry, thus the production of GH as would happen during an intermittent fast. From what I gather, if one is looking to benefit from the GH aspect of MK677, then it should be taken at night when you aren't eating, but if you need to increase your appetite then it should be taken in the morning.

So, I am curious about those of you who have taken it, how long did you use it for, how did you find it? Would it make sense to add it to a Tren cycle instead of buying GH? Also is there a dose-response ratio to it, such that taking 20mg won't really yield much more benefit than taking 10mg?

Thank you :)
On personal experience; MK677 does work; you gain tolerance fast, so I suggest two weeks on two weeks off, some guys run it non stop for months and months, but I found it is much more effective if taken on and off in small cycles. It does work; most of the user experience I’ve read equates to it working very similar to GH, except more prone to the hunger, lethargy, swollen hands or feet, pins and needles feeling in your tendons. (IGF levels staying in the low to mid 300’s, just like taking a couple iu’s of exogenous GH per day), the only thing is there is no long term studies done yet, I’ve read some horror stories about it; I’ve also read many use high amounts for extended time with no adverse effects. I’m actually using pharma GH myself with some MK added for an experiment .
 

IronRobi

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So, I am curious about those of you who have taken it, how long did you use it for, how did you find it? Would it make sense to add it to a Tren cycle instead of buying GH? Also is there a dose-response ratio to it, such that taking 20mg won't really yield much more benefit than taking 10mg?
I would compare it's results to taking a low dose of HGH. Like 1-2iu. Yes, it does increase appetite and you pretty much nailed it on the timing aspect.

There is a point of diminishing returns, depending on your goals. If your goal is some fat loss, better sleep, etc... the amount of GH released between 10mg and 25mg is negligible. However, if the goal is to gain mass, IGF-1 levels increase significantly between 10mg and 25mg but beyond 25 doesn't give much added benefit. For me, 25mg is the sweet spot.
 

Michealchapman83

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I would compare it's results to taking a low dose of HGH. Like 1-2iu. Yes, it does increase appetite and you pretty much nailed it on the timing aspect.

There is a point of diminishing returns, depending on your goals. If your goal is some fat loss, better sleep, etc... the amount of GH released between 10mg and 25mg is negligible. However, if the goal is to gain mass, IGF-1 levels increase significantly between 10mg and 25mg but beyond 25 doesn't give much added benefit. For me, 25mg is the sweet spot.
Interesting
 

Shrek

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Im taking it now. I take it at night to avoid the hunger. 1 to 2 weeks on, same time off. Feels like low dose GH, good sleep, cool dreams (not as intense as GH but certainly noticable), morning grogginess, lethargy requiring afternoon cat naps, etc.
 

Michealchapman83

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I would compare it's results to taking a low dose of HGH. Like 1-2iu. Yes, it does increase appetite and you pretty much nailed it on the timing aspect.

There is a point of diminishing returns, depending on your goals. If your goal is some fat loss, better sleep, etc... the amount of GH released between 10mg and 25mg is negligible. However, if the goal is to gain mass, IGF-1 levels increase significantly between 10mg and 25mg but beyond 25 doesn't give much added benefit. For me, 25mg is the sweet spot.
So how about if I went on vacation? And I’m on growth but couldn’t bring with me if I jumped on some mk would that do the trick?
 

OTFJOEY

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So how about if I went on vacation? And I’m on growth but couldn’t bring with me if I jumped on some mk would that do the trick?
That would be fine for a short period I’m sure; it’s not gonna be as good it’s like comparing prime rib to bologna; it works but it’s just not quite the same. But u can survive on it ; lol
 

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My opinion is that mk677 is junk for hgh purposes. Its not strong enough to do anything noticeable on the hgh side of things.

Id equate mk677 at full saturated dosage to 0.5-1iu of hgh. Which does next to nothing. If it were equal to 2iu or more then id be all over it but that's just not reality.

Also it surely raises BG significantly which I'm not a fan of. And makes you retain a ton of water. Which can be advantageous but usually isn't.

I havr my guys use it if they're skinny dudes trying to bulk and struggling for appetite. And or the 1-2 nights before a lagging bodypart is trained.

Imo it needs to be cycled 100%.

I understand hgh is pricey. But there are very affordable generics that actually work and are comparable to pharma. That's the route I recommend on a budget...and is the route I'll be going personally.

But if youre absolutely looking for an alternative to hgh I prefer mod grf+hexarelin or ipam.
 

OTFJOEY

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My opinion is that mk677 is junk for hgh purposes. Its not strong enough to do anything noticeable on the hgh side of things.

Id equate mk677 at full saturated dosage to 0.5-1iu of hgh. Which does next to nothing. If it were equal to 2iu or more then id be all over it but that's just not reality.

Also it surely raises BG significantly which I'm not a fan of. And makes you retain a ton of water. Which can be advantageous but usually isn't.

I havr my guys use it if they're skinny dudes trying to bulk and struggling for appetite. And or the 1-2 nights before a lagging bodypart is trained.

Imo it needs to be cycled 100%.

I understand hgh is pricey. But there are very affordable generics that actually work and are comparable to pharma. That's the route I recommend on a budget...and is the route I'll be going personally.

But if youre absolutely looking for an alternative to hgh I prefer mod grf+hexarelin or ipam.
see I want to hop on board with this comment fully @Synyster ; but I can’t agree with any generics being able to touch pharma. Every fuckin place I’ve ever researched- generic GH is not comparable to pharma.
 

Cheapshot

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My opinion is that mk677 is junk for hgh purposes. Its not strong enough to do anything noticeable on the hgh side of things.

Id equate mk677 at full saturated dosage to 0.5-1iu of hgh. Which does next to nothing. If it were equal to 2iu or more then id be all over it but that's just not reality.

Also it surely raises BG significantly which I'm not a fan of. And makes you retain a ton of water. Which can be advantageous but usually isn't.

I havr my guys use it if they're skinny dudes trying to bulk and struggling for appetite. And or the 1-2 nights before a lagging bodypart is trained.

Imo it needs to be cycled 100%.

I understand hgh is pricey. But there are very affordable generics that actually work and are comparable to pharma. That's the route I recommend on a budget...and is the route I'll be going personally.

But if youre absolutely looking for an alternative to hgh I prefer mod grf+hexarelin or ipam.
I agree with all of this. The one use I have found for mk677. Is when you start orals and your appetite goes to shit 3 wreks in, start up some mk and push through another 2 weeks with lots of appetite. I know its not really what its designed for, but it works..lol
 

IronRobi

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My opinion is that mk677 is junk for hgh purposes. Its not strong enough to do anything noticeable on the hgh side of things.

I understand hgh is pricey. But there are very affordable generics that actually work and are comparable to pharma. That's the route I recommend on a budget...and is the route I'll be going personally.

But if youre absolutely looking for an alternative to hgh I prefer mod grf+hexarelin or ipam.
A few things here....

I'll start on the HGH comment. And you're right, it is pricey. It's also a complete crapshoot. You could drop a grand and get great HGH, and a few weeks later do it again from the same source and get absolute crap. There is so much garbage and fake shit on the market you could be injecting absolutely nothing and just pissing your money away. The only way to know for sure you're getting real HGH is picking it up from your local shoppers drug mart yourself.

As for cjc/ipam (ipam over hex always due to desensitizing issues with hex), I'm curious why you would prefer this over mk677 where mk has been shown to cause more gh release? You mention blood glucose, which is about the only downside mk677 has over the peptide combo, but you seem to be speaking from a pure GH release perspective in which case MK677 is superior. Add the ease of use factor and the fact that BG levels shouldn't be a major issue with a good diet in check and you have a very clear winner.
 

Synyster

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I agree with all of this. The one use I have found for mk677. Is when you start orals and your appetite goes to shit 3 wreks in, start up some mk and push through another 2 weeks with lots of appetite. I know its not really what its designed for, but it works..lol
I find I don't have issues with my appetite on oral provided I keep my liver and digestion on point.

Nac+choline+inositol+methionine all at high dose takes care of the liver issues.

For digestion I take a good digestive enzyme with lots of ox bile. The ox bile is key.

But regardless...I'd agree about mk being used for appetite regardless of why.
 

PGM

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My opinion is that mk677 is junk for hgh purposes. Its not strong enough to do anything noticeable on the hgh side of things.

Id equate mk677 at full saturated dosage to 0.5-1iu of hgh. Which does next to nothing. If it were equal to 2iu or more then id be all over it but that's just not reality.

Also it surely raises BG significantly which I'm not a fan of. And makes you retain a ton of water. Which can be advantageous but usually isn't.

I havr my guys use it if they're skinny dudes trying to bulk and struggling for appetite. And or the 1-2 nights before a lagging bodypart is trained.

Imo it needs to be cycled 100%.

I understand hgh is pricey. But there are very affordable generics that actually work and are comparable to pharma. That's the route I recommend on a budget...and is the route I'll be going personally.

But if youre absolutely looking for an alternative to hgh I prefer mod grf+hexarelin or ipam.
Come on boys it has to be a lot easier than this. Fuck I just want to train hard, get max growth recovery and strength ... pure and simple. what was just said in this threat/article meant absolutely no sense to me at all ... and that is fine as all I want to do is find my quickest way from point a to point b
 

OTFJOEY

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Come on boys it has to be a lot easier than this. Fuck I just want to train hard, get max growth recovery and strength ... pure and simple. what was just said in this threat/article meant absolutely no sense to me at all ... and that is fine as all I want to do is find my quickest way from point a to point b
Man I just wanna be in the top 3 Mr. O by the end of 2022
 

OTFJOEY

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not me I don't want to look like a freak. I like the the more athletic look. But to each it's own... both is fine
Oh totally kidding about that- just a little “shortcut” joke. Some guys think they run anabolics and look like Ronnie Coleman did. Good fuckin luck
 
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