Just had a heated argument with a doctor

CoolBreeze

CoolBreeze

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Hey everyone I hope you’re all doing well and staying jacked as fuck, some of you know I’ve been in a treatment centre for the last month and it’s going pretty fuckin good the facility is outstanding full gym and pool and a little bit of talent walkin around doesn’t hurt haha. At any rate my test levels have fallen flat after cold turkey coming off 200mg my mood is low and voice has gone higher so I just saw the doctor hoping to at the very least get some blood work done and this fucking guy is arguing with me the entire time saying it’s so extremely uncommon to treat low test and he has lots of patients who are just fine with zero fucking test implying that my low T symptoms aren’t real. He also said even when TRT is implemented the placebo affect is huge then he takes a look at my little baby balls one of them is like full atrophy in up in my fuckin belly and says they are fine !!!! Normal!!! Why are doctors like this ?!?! I’ll bet he has no issue giving test to a mentally damaged woman who wants to be a man we’re living in fuckin clown world here where it’s easier for a woman who wants to be a man (which is impossible) to get test than a man who needs it for his body to function properly. He was also trying to rationalize with me that my baseline 5.3 is just fine and I should just live like that no problem like there are zero symptoms. Anyway that’s my rant take care everyone!!
 
CoolBreeze said:
Hey everyone I hope you’re all doing well and staying jacked as fuck, some of you know I’ve been in a treatment centre for the last month and it’s going pretty fuckin good the facility is outstanding full gym and pool and a little bit of talent walkin around doesn’t hurt haha. At any rate my test levels have fallen flat after cold turkey coming off 200mg my mood is low and voice has gone higher so I just saw the doctor hoping to at the very least get some blood work done and this fucking guy is arguing with me the entire time saying it’s so extremely uncommon to treat low test and he has lots of patients who are just fine with zero fucking test implying that my low T symptoms aren’t real. He also said even when TRT is implemented the placebo affect is huge then he takes a look at my little baby balls one of them is like full atrophy in up in my fuckin belly and says they are fine !!!! Normal!!! Why are doctors like this ?!?! I’ll bet he has no issue giving test to a mentally damaged woman who wants to be a man we’re living in fuckin clown world here where it’s easier for a woman who wants to be a man (which is impossible) to get test than a man who needs it for his body to function properly. He was also trying to rationalize with me that my baseline 5.3 is just fine and I should just live like that no problem like there are zero symptoms. Anyway that’s my rant take care everyone!!
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I am astounded everyday at the exponential slide our side of the world is on right now and many thinking it’s all good and normal.
Time to move to Russia, they seem to have integrity at least.
Well maybe even in with the Cali cartel, at least they tell you what they are doing and how they will do it.
The medical industry is so polluted with corruption now it’s painful to have to be looking for help from them.
maybe Malaysia, that would be better. Apparently awesome medical there.
I try to be an optimist, but unfortunately reality is downgraded
 
ironwill said:
I am astounded everyday at the exponential slide our side of the world is on right now and many thinking it’s all good and normal.
Time to move to Russia, they seem to have integrity at least.
Well maybe even in with the Cali cartel, at least they tell you what they are doing and how they will do it.
The medical industry is so polluted with corruption now it’s painful to have to be looking for help from them.
maybe Malaysia, that would be better. Apparently awesome medical there.
I try to be an optimist, but unfortunately reality is downgraded
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Well we here, or many of here are doing steroids. That's not normal for most.

I think it's important that one should be upfront about it to ensure there is clarity and the doctor can make a proper assessment.

Also, many doctors just aren't educated enough about long term steroid use in the manner many of us use them.

My GP is clueless. And her references are often of abuse. Which most of use don't.
 
It is frustrating.
Well you now have motivation to get clean, so you can go back to self prescribing test.
So make sure you get a handle on your addiction.
I don’t know what you could say to him, but punching him in the face is likely a no, no? Lol.
 
Frustrating yes. But worth arguing over? No.

why? Because you can’t win, no matter what.

it’s like trying to purchase pins at a drug store and the pharmacist chooses to give you the third degree over it. Just take your business elsewhere.

I realize it’s not as easy or simple as going down the street to the next drug store…. But what I’m saying is there’s no sense getting worked up over it. This doc has made his or her choice in what they want to prescribe. No amount of getting angry is going to change their mind.

life is much easier when you can learn to empower yourself to seek the things you want and understand that there are things in which you have control over in your life…. And also things you don’t.

don’t waste time and effort on things you have no control over…. Focus on those that you do.

that’s not to say… become a quitter and give up when things get difficult. Not at all. It just to say…. Be resilient, smart and flexible…. Focus efforts towards things that get you what you want or where you want.

in this case… accept this doc doesn’t believe in hormone therapy for your situation. They may be right, they may be wrong…. But why waste effort anc sanity in trying to convince them that they are wrong and you are right? Why not use that energy to motivate yourself to getting aligned with a different or more progressive way of thinking when it comes to hormone regulation?

this would most likely prove to be much more fruitful…. And much less exhausting.

you spend your life continuously trying to bash through walls…. At some point you just break. Why give anyone that level of control over you? Why not be the one that is in control of their path and fate?

it’s hard to see this when it’s blocking your path…. But there are sometimes less difficult ways or paths to success. What not employ them?

too many people get stuck on this. The most successful people in all walks of life have figured this out…. At least to some degree. And that is one of the largest things that fuels their success.

it’s not easy to master for most, but those that can are always more happy and successful. It’s no easy task…. Especially for A types who get fixated easily.
 
The Canadian medical system is not getting better only worse. In order to survive you need to start treating your self, and learning about your symptoms, it can be a battle for sure but it can be a worse battle dealing with a shitty doc or multiple shitty docs.

Most guys will say find a doc find a doc.... i live in the real world... docs are becoming extinct , and in my opinion most are completely under trained and too busy to even catch up to the level they need to be.

Telemedicine is going to be your best bet, i suggest try there. Find one that targets your needs.
 
biguglynewf said:
Frustrating yes. But worth arguing over? No.

why? Because you can’t win, no matter what.

it’s like trying to purchase pins at a drug store and the pharmacist chooses to give you the third degree over it. Just take your business elsewhere.

I realize it’s not as easy or simple as going down the street to the next drug store…. But what I’m saying is there’s no sense getting worked up over it. This doc has made his or her choice in what they want to prescribe. No amount of getting angry is going to change their mind.

life is much easier when you can learn to empower yourself to seek the things you want and understand that there are things in which you have control over in your life…. And also things you don’t.

don’t waste time and effort on things you have no control over…. Focus on those that you do.

that’s not to say… become a quitter and give up when things get difficult. Not at all. It just to say…. Be resilient, smart and flexible…. Focus efforts towards things that get you what you want or where you want.

in this case… accept this doc doesn’t believe in hormone therapy for your situation. They may be right, they may be wrong…. But why waste effort anc sanity in trying to convince them that they are wrong and you are right? Why not use that energy to motivate yourself to getting aligned with a different or more progressive way of thinking when it comes to hormone regulation?

this would most likely prove to be much more fruitful…. And much less exhausting.

you spend your life continuously trying to bash through walls…. At some point you just break. Why give anyone that level of control over you? Why not be the one that is in control of their path and fate?

it’s hard to see this when it’s blocking your path…. But there are sometimes less difficult ways or paths to success. What not employ them?

too many people get stuck on this. The most successful people in all walks of life have figured this out…. At least to some degree. And that is one of the largest things that fuels their success.

it’s not easy to master for most, but those that can are always more happy and successful. It’s no easy task…. Especially for A types who get fixated easily.
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Great advice.
Years ago I realized it was easier to manipulate from within the system than fight it from the outside.
Doesnt mean I won’t still bitch though, but what I bitch about and how I actually act are two different things.
 
Sorbate said:
It is frustrating.
Well you now have motivation to get clean, so you can go back to self prescribing test.
So make sure you get a handle on your addiction.
I don’t know what you could say to him, but punching him in the face is likely a no, no? Lol.
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Lmao
 
biguglynewf said:
Frustrating yes. But worth arguing over? No.

why? Because you can’t win, no matter what.

it’s like trying to purchase pins at a drug store and the pharmacist chooses to give you the third degree over it. Just take your business elsewhere.

I realize it’s not as easy or simple as going down the street to the next drug store…. But what I’m saying is there’s no sense getting worked up over it. This doc has made his or her choice in what they want to prescribe. No amount of getting angry is going to change their mind.

life is much easier when you can learn to empower yourself to seek the things you want and understand that there are things in which you have control over in your life…. And also things you don’t.

don’t waste time and effort on things you have no control over…. Focus on those that you do.

that’s not to say… become a quitter and give up when things get difficult. Not at all. It just to say…. Be resilient, smart and flexible…. Focus efforts towards things that get you what you want or where you want.

in this case… accept this doc doesn’t believe in hormone therapy for your situation. They may be right, they may be wrong…. But why waste effort anc sanity in trying to convince them that they are wrong and you are right? Why not use that energy to motivate yourself to getting aligned with a different or more progressive way of thinking when it comes to hormone regulation?

this would most likely prove to be much more fruitful…. And much less exhausting.

you spend your life continuously trying to bash through walls…. At some point you just break. Why give anyone that level of control over you? Why not be the one that is in control of their path and fate?

it’s hard to see this when it’s blocking your path…. But there are sometimes less difficult ways or paths to success. What not employ them?

too many people get stuck on this. The most successful people in all walks of life have figured this out…. At least to some degree. And that is one of the largest things that fuels their success.

it’s not easy to master for most, but those that can are always more happy and successful. It’s no easy task…. Especially for A types who get fixated easily.
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Wise words
Harley00 said:
The Canadian medical system is not getting better only worse. In order to survive you need to start treating your self, and learning about your symptoms, it can be a battle for sure but it can be a worse battle dealing with a shitty doc or multiple shitty docs.

Most guys will say find a doc find a doc.... i live in the real world... docs are becoming extinct , and in my opinion most are completely under trained and too busy to even catch up to the level they need to be.

Telemedicine is going to be your best bet, i suggest try there. Find one that targets your needs.
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Have any telereccomendations ?
 
Harley00 said:
The Canadian medical system is not getting better only worse. In order to survive you need to start treating your self, and learning about your symptoms, it can be a battle for sure but it can be a worse battle dealing with a shitty doc or multiple shitty docs.

Most guys will say find a doc find a doc.... i live in the real world... docs are becoming extinct , and in my opinion most are completely under trained and too busy to even catch up to the level they need to be.

Telemedicine is going to be your best bet, i suggest try there. Find one that targets your needs.
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Harley00 said:
I use truebalance healthcare. Think theres an age requirement over 35 i think.

Then there onman for certain areas as well.
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After 30+ years of working beside Doctors, Nurses, Psychiatrists and Nurse Practitioners.....Yes the healthcare system is fucked and has been for 20 years. GO's are so heavily regulated its ridiculous, specialists are even more so.

Doctors are so tightly monitored and their prescribing guidelines are so draconian they cant fart without a letter of reprimand.

I am not defending the level of misinformation and procrastination they seem to show when it comes to investigation/. But I do understand the exorbitant amount of patients they are loaded with and limited resources they are able to access. Its about the healthcare system being tightly controlled to save costs.
 
System here is ridiculous.

I lived in Nashville and walked into a place called Low T Center. Did my labs and said I was on the low end. Said come in once a week and they pinned me. Continued this way for years.

Moved back to Canada. Talked to no less than 6 doctors to find one who would continue something i was already prescribed by a physician.

The doc I see is still a pain to get anything done and wants bloods every 3 months.

System here is ridiculous.


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ironwill said:
I am astounded everyday at the exponential slide our side of the world is on right now and many thinking it’s all good and normal.
Time to move to Russia, they seem to have integrity at least.
Well maybe even in with the Cali cartel, at least they tell you what they are doing and how they will do it.
The medical industry is so polluted with corruption now it’s painful to have to be looking for help from them.
maybe Malaysia, that would be better. Apparently awesome medical there.
I try to be an optimist, but unfortunately reality is downgraded
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Yes I have heard some amazing stories about Malaysia for healthcare as well. I had a few friends that lived their for years and said it was their favorite place to live. Not sure how the steroid scene is down there though
 
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