Do i need to be on HGH for life?

OTFJOEY

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Actually I’m going because summer year round, and my money will be worth a lot more there than in Canada.

Plus hearing about 3ml getting his gear delivered to his door made me jealous. Pharma gh and gear delivered legally. If I get an infection I can buy antibiotics at the local pharmacy without a script.
I can’t see why it would be a bad thing; just obviously in one of the nicer areas I’m assuming
 

Sorbate

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I can’t see why it would be a bad thing; just obviously in one of the nicer areas I’m assuming
My wife is researching the shit out of it. Whe she gets something in her mind, lol.
Reminds me of how we got our first house. We were Renting because I didn‘t want to spend my rrsp s yet for a down payment. So the place we were renting one of the owners (a family owned it was their parents old house) kept dropping by like eod for weeks, we told them we had 1 cat, we had 4, lol. They met her at the front door one day, lol. All front declawed, so they caused no damage, anyhow they raised my rent by $50 a cat, I look at the new rent and it was $825, I was fuck that, I can pay a mortage with that. My wife jumped on my anger as fast as she could and had me looking at houses the next day. No way I could chicken out now, lol.

Best part was we had cleaned the place up a lot, Cleaned up all the garbage, cut the hedges, cleaned off the concrete, (in the first few weeks) I was about to clean the trees out of the gutter. We fixed up the walls and had painted natural paint, all paid for by us. So one of the other sisters came by to check and give back our damage deposit and she asked me if we were sure if we wanted to leave and couldn’t believe what her sister had done, she realized she just lost likeky her best renters she would have had. My wife looked at her and said, nope, we already bought a house nicer than this and our mortage is less than rent (she had a smile on her face).

Sorry for the side track, just made me think of how my wife can be very focused, lol.
 

OTFJOEY

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My wife is researching the shit out of it. Whe she gets something in her mind, lol.
Reminds me of how we got our first house. We were Renting because I didn‘t want to spend my rrsp s yet for a down payment. So the place we were renting one of the owners (a family owned it was their parents old house) kept dropping by like eod for weeks, we told them we had 1 cat, we had 4, lol. They met her at the front door one day, lol. All front declawed, so they caused no damage, anyhow they raised my rent by $50 a cat, I look at the new rent and it was $825, I was fuck that, I can pay a mortage with that. My wife jumped on my anger as fast as she could and had me looking at houses the next day. No way I could chicken out now, lol.

Best part was we had cleaned the place up a lot, Cleaned up all the garbage, cut the hedges, cleaned off the concrete, (in the first few weeks) I was about to clean the trees out of the gutter. We fixed up the walls and had painted natural paint, all paid for by us. So one of the other sisters came by to check and give back our damage deposit and she asked me if we were sure if we wanted to leave and couldn’t believe what her sister had done, she realized she just lost likeky her best renters she would have had. My wife looked at her and said, nope, we already bought a house nicer than this and our mortage is less than rent (she had a smile on her face).

Sorry for the side track, just made me think of how my wife can be very focused, lol.
I’m thinking in or around Mexico City probably would be safe, there’s gotta be areas that suit your life and shouldn’t be too much of a culture shock
 

Sorbate

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I’m thinking in or around Mexico City probably would be safe, there’s gotta be areas that suit your life and shouldn’t be too much of a culture shock
Big cities just like big cities here are the worst.. some part of Edmonton and Toronto I wouldn’t go into, lol.
Of you avoid the drug corridor as well you are fine.
Quinta Roos is the area.
There are forums for xpats from Canada that like on here explain everything.
I have 7 years to figure it all out. Lots of time.
 

Pv007

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Before bed is ok but you lose the natural pulse you would have had during the night (maybe .5-1iu's worth of natural gh). I like the morning before my kids are up or I let them play video games before I go workout and pin quick while they are all glued to the screen. They wouldn't notice if a truck drove into the house.
🤣🤣
 

Goldenrod

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will try morning then
Before you change your schedule because someone says to take it in the morning - how old are you? Are you taking it for overall health and anti-aging or for growth/fat loss? Based on 2 IU a day - you are taking it for healing/health/anti-aging. I am going by memory so if I got that wrong, apologies.
As much as there are some very wise guys here, when it comes to GH I defer to four guys - two on this forum who have tested almost every brand and two coaches who competed at a high level. I am in my 40's and take GH at night. I did try it in the morning and it made zero difference.

I gave it a fair run of 3 months in the morning vs. the evening and no difference but I am not concentrating on GH/slin/carbs etc. for the growth or fat loss. Whatever I get from it for new muscle or fat loss - great. The two coaches who are friends both said take it at night based on my goals - anti-aging, healing, and my age.

People often refer to HGH as a health product but lets be real about this compound. It has health promoting properties (and I love it) but it can also have negative sides and I don't mean water retention or carpel tunnel. IGF makes tissue grow faster and that includes lesions. HGH will significantly increase your IGF.
There is a reason why you should have a physical and blood work before jumping on GH and it is contradicted if you have any existing cancers. This is just my opinion and people can do as they chose but it is based on my surgeon's words who competes in high level power lifting. He is well versed in anabolics, GH, and peptides and talks openly with his patients.

As usual - just my opinion and my comments are not medical advice.
 

OTFJOEY

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Before you change your schedule because someone says to take it in the morning - how old are you? Are you taking it for overall health and anti-aging or for growth/fat loss? Based on 2 IU a day - you are taking it for healing/health/anti-aging. I am going by memory so if I got that wrong, apologies.
As much as there are some very wise guys here, when it comes to GH I defer to four guys - two on this forum who have tested almost every brand and two coaches who competed at a high level. I am in my 40's and take GH at night. I did try it in the morning and it made zero difference.

I gave it a fair run of 3 months in the morning vs. the evening and no difference but I am not concentrating on GH/slin/carbs etc. for the growth or fat loss. Whatever I get from it for new muscle or fat loss - great. The two coaches who are friends both said take it at night based on my goals - anti-aging, healing, and my age.

People often refer to HGH as a health product but lets be real about this compound. It has health promoting properties (and I love it) but it can also have negative sides and I don't mean water retention or carpel tunnel. IGF makes tissue grow faster and that includes lesions. HGH will significantly increase your IGF.
There is a reason why you should have a physical and blood work before jumping on GH and it is contradicted if you have any existing cancers. This is just my opinion and people can do as they chose but it is based on my surgeon's words who competes in high level power lifting. He is well versed in anabolics, GH, and peptides and talks openly with his patients.

As usual - just my opinion and my comments are not medical advice.
You got a kick ass surgeon
 

kryogen

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Before you change your schedule because someone says to take it in the morning - how old are you? Are you taking it for overall health and anti-aging or for growth/fat loss? Based on 2 IU a day - you are taking it for healing/health/anti-aging. I am going by memory so if I got that wrong, apologies.
As much as there are some very wise guys here, when it comes to GH I defer to four guys - two on this forum who have tested almost every brand and two coaches who competed at a high level. I am in my 40's and take GH at night. I did try it in the morning and it made zero difference.

I gave it a fair run of 3 months in the morning vs. the evening and no difference but I am not concentrating on GH/slin/carbs etc. for the growth or fat loss. Whatever I get from it for new muscle or fat loss - great. The two coaches who are friends both said take it at night based on my goals - anti-aging, healing, and my age.

People often refer to HGH as a health product but lets be real about this compound. It has health promoting properties (and I love it) but it can also have negative sides and I don't mean water retention or carpel tunnel. IGF makes tissue grow faster and that includes lesions. HGH will significantly increase your IGF.
There is a reason why you should have a physical and blood work before jumping on GH and it is contradicted if you have any existing cancers. This is just my opinion and people can do as they chose but it is based on my surgeon's words who competes in high level power lifting. He is well versed in anabolics, GH, and peptides and talks openly with his patients.

As usual - just my opinion and my comments are not medical advice.
Thanks for your comment. 37, taking it for anti aging and mostly help injury healing with tendons and ligaments. I'm already slim enough, around 10-12% that's ok for me I'm not really willing to go slimmer, I'd rather have a bit more mass right now. Once I get my bp sorted out I'll add 5mg anavar and maybe like 30mg deca for a while to my trt to help with joints/healing.
 

Goldenrod

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Thanks for your comment. 37, taking it for anti aging and mostly help injury healing with tendons and ligaments. I'm already slim enough, around 10-12% that's ok for me I'm not really willing to go slimmer, I'd rather have a bit more mass right now. Once I get my bp sorted out I'll add 5mg anavar and maybe like 30mg deca for a while to my trt to help with joints/healing.
I don't know the right answer because I don't know if one exists. I'm over 40 and take it at night and will more so because guys who have a lot more experience than I have recommend it. All that being said, like I said before taking it in the morning made no difference.
Test it on yourself but give it at least 3 months as 2 IU of HGH will take a long time to make an esthetic difference.
For what it is worth - from a safety, sex drive, growth, and heath perspective my favorite long term cycle was 100 mg test E and 150 mg of Primo per week with 1-2 IU of either Genos or Seros. Many wouldn't consider it a cycle since it is such a small amount but if you patient you will see results.
If you want help with your BP - speak up as you don't want to mess around with it. See a doctor but there is a lot you can do yourself to get it into ideal range especially if your not stepping on the gas.

Best of luck!
 

Goldenrod

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You got a kick ass surgeon
Yes, I'm lucky my ortho holds the Canadian and Commonwealth record for the deadlift for his age and is top 10 in squat and bench. He is an absolute monster and over 60. He trains with a few other power lifters I know in a garage. One of the world champs from the Province has your typical old school powerlifting set up in his garage.
He is the doc that told me I could take BPC157 for a torn meniscus and it won't heal it because of the blood flow in the area. Nothing to do but surgery. His son is a powerlifter too and uses BPC and TB regularly for injuries.
We are blessed he is still practicing part time. I wish all docs had his knowledge on PED and peptides and would speak as openly about them.
 

OTFJOEY

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We are blessed he is still practicing part time. I wish all docs had his knowledge on PED and peptides and would speak as openly about them.
I need to find one like that - that isn’t online and cost an arm and a leg for consults
 

Goldenrod

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I need to find one like that - that isn’t online and cost an arm and a leg for consult
He is a gentle giant - 6'6 and best guess 300 lbs-325 lbs. His knowledge over shadows his size. I have been blessed to know him for 30 years.
He complains about his long arms for benching but says they are a blessing for the deadlift hence the commonwealth record.
 

OTFJOEY

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He is a gentle giant - 6'6 and best guess 300 lbs-325 lbs. His knowledge over shadows his size. I have been blessed to know him for 30 years.
He complains about his long arms for benching but says they are a blessing for the deadlift hence the commonwealth record.
Sounds like my body type
Edit; I’m 200 pounds not 300+; also about a foot shorter 🤣 but the disproportionate arms and elongated torso leading to easier deadlifts I can relate and attest to lol
 
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