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ironwill

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The cases are there but the hospitalizations are not yet. We will see in two weeks. If hospitalizations don’t drastically increase, like I’m prefect ing it won’t, there will be no need for lockdowns.
Alberta cases rising very quickly as of todays news, hospitals flooded etc, not good..All bullshit of course, but this is the reports...New years will be locked down there for gyms and bars etc...my prediction.
 

ironwill

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I pay well for “my” industry. Shit everyone gets 2 weeks pay for a Christmas bonus every year. Non slip shoes -and uniform for free. Normally in retail they have to buy their own stuff.

I figure since they don’t make $30 an hour least we can do is pay for uniforms.

Anyhow, right now we are realizing that a Univeral Benefit Income wouldn’t work. People would live within what it’s amount was.

They ran a pilot project here. The gave UBI to certian people. So a person in school, a welfare person, a single mom. Then they screamed. Look these people loved it, look how the benefited. Worst part was they didn’t remove the benefits that the single mom already received. It was so set up to look good. See if the cut someone’s income, then gave the UBI I wonder what a normal person would think? Then increase their taxes, lol.

Socialism at its finest.
I hear ya man...I mean no offense at your industry, and i am hoping you did not read as such. Your industry is very respected and required big time..
I am envious of the skills you guys have, it would serve me well.Maybe even more so in the future with the shit going on today.
A millwright and welding ticket and ironworker ticket will keep me working, but not a life skill really if we ever hit survival mode...I could weld for a steak i guess, do some high angle rigging of some W-flanges and join some steel or align a sausage maker to within .001 thou if you need it....lol...
I have cut a lot of meat, and it takes me forever and i wish i was more adept.

It is just Mining, Forestry, oil and gas etc that i frequent in the North as i love the North. Is overpaid and every guy that gets an apprenticeship sees it as a golden goose. Buy a big truck, big side by side, best sled and all the gear that goes with it, a Harley and a boat...So i smile when i see this as i know ill have a guy that will work ot and drive it to the end and stay working as much as possible.
Hell i did it as well, until i was 23, then thought, i am becoming a slave by purchasing material objects with loans. Then i grew up and still have all these things and more, but not a loan to be seen and save and sacrifice, then today it has worked out..SO FAR...
These guys cannot afford a CERB cheque income.
 

Sorbate

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I hear ya man...I mean no offense at your industry, and i am hoping you did not read as such. Your industry is very respected and required big time..
I am envious of the skills you guys have, it would serve me well.Maybe even more so in the future with the shit going on today.
A millwright and welding ticket and ironworker ticket will keep me working, but not a life skill really if we ever hit survival mode...I could weld for a steak i guess, do some high angle rigging of some W-flanges and join some steel or align a sausage maker to within .001 thou if you need it....lol...
I have cut a lot of meat, and it takes me forever and i wish i was more adept.

It is just Mining, Forestry, oil and gas etc that i frequent in the North as i love the North. Is overpaid and every guy that gets an apprenticeship sees it as a golden goose. Buy a big truck, big side by side, best sled and all the gear that goes with it, a Harley and a boat...So i smile when i see this as i know ill have a guy that will work ot and drive it to the end and stay working as much as possible.
Hell i did it as well, until i was 23, then thought, i am becoming a slave by purchasing material objects with loans. Then i grew up and still have all these things and more, but not a loan to be seen and save and sacrifice, then today it has worked out..SO FAR...
These guys cannot afford a CERB cheque income.
I wasnt offended at all. I understand what you meant. I was just explaining that I am a good employer in the retail sector, there will always be people working retail, I try to be a better employer so I have staff. No way I could afford to pay them oilfield wages, lol.

in 2004-8 when my shop was still in Edmonton, I lost all my male staff the the rigs. Couldn't blame them either. Was part of the reason I moved my shop to Ontario. No boom economy in Ontario.

Right now these staff shortages feel the same as there, except at least the ones I have now don’t abuse it like the ones out there did. They knew they couldnt be fired so the would show up late, or call and say they wouldnt be in and so on. I went thru 43 people the last couple years in Edmonton.

I can still hire, but you have to be inventive and steal them from another place, lol.

Truthfully if the world collapses no one is prepared. I don’t care of you think you are, you not. So you live in the bush, can hunt. Well when food runs short, everyone will be in the bush hunting. All you need to do is look a Venezuela if you want to see what will happen. Total collapse of society and people ate all the wild animals, women hooked to make money. Our lives are too dependant and we have far more population than the land can support. Without all the different industries doing their thing, we are screwed.

When I first started to make good money at the shop, I did the same, bought expensive cars, my wife really nice jewelry, toys and the rest. I was in debt, maybe not as bad as some, but when I moved to Ontario at 36, and sold my house, paid all my debts off and bought the next house with cash, I decided I would be more careful in the future. I got lucky and made huge profit off my Sherwood Park home.

I’m still in the same house but it’s completely rebuilt, shit I’m even renovating some rooms a second time, lol. Right now I’m banking all my money in investments. The only purchase I made was the bike, but my wife had the money saved for our yearly mexico trips, and since we didn’t go for two years that was the amounted I needed after trade in. Glad I did, the new bike is wicked.

You know we seem to be pretty similar.
 

ironwill

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I wasnt offended at all. I understand what you meant. I was just explaining that I am a good employer in the retail sector, there will always be people working retail, I try to be a better employer so I have staff. No way I could afford to pay them oilfield wages, lol.

in 2004-8 when my shop was still in Edmonton, I lost all my male staff the the rigs. Couldn't blame them either. Was part of the reason I moved my shop to Ontario. No boom economy in Ontario.

Right now these staff shortages feel the same as there, except at least the ones I have now don’t abuse it like the ones out there did. They knew they couldnt be fired so the would show up late, or call and say they wouldnt be in and so on. I went thru 43 people the last couple years in Edmonton.

I can still hire, but you have to be inventive and steal them from another place, lol.

Truthfully if the world collapses no one is prepared. I don’t care of you think you are, you not. So you live in the bush, can hunt. Well when food runs short, everyone will be in the bush hunting. All you need to do is look a Venezuela if you want to see what will happen. Total collapse of society and people ate all the wild animals, women hooked to make money. Our lives are too dependant and we have far more population than the land can support. Without all the different industries doing their thing, we are screwed.

When I first started to make good money at the shop, I did the same, bought expensive cars, my wife really nice jewelry, toys and the rest. I was in debt, maybe not as bad as some, but when I moved to Ontario at 36, and sold my house, paid all my debts off and bought the next house with cash, I decided I would be more careful in the future. I got lucky and made huge profit off my Sherwood Park home.

I’m still in the same house but it’s completely rebuilt, shit I’m even renovating some rooms a second time, lol. Right now I’m banking all my money in investments. The only purchase I made was the bike, but my wife had the money saved for our yearly mexico trips, and since we didn’t go for two years that was the amounted I needed after trade in. Glad I did, the new bike is wicked.

You know we seem to be pretty similar.
I agree with most of what you said. IMO , the only thing i am not in full agreement on is the hunting and survival part.
If things ever got hit with an EMP zap for instance, or whatever may result. 80 % of population would be dead in the first 2 weeks. There would be noone hunting in the bush in the Rockies way up mNorth, well very few folks as it is rugged, hard to get to, and the animals dont lay beside the road and most folks are too lazy to walk survival or not. If there was low fuel they would be stuck in their cities etc.
If you are a well armed prepper person that is semi prepared with great bush and life skills and grew up working, you will have a decent chance to survive.
In Canada we are not utilizing 20 % of our land my friend, we have abundance, but most do not know how to garner our items. If you have good water and good dirt and a home with heat and wild animals in the area and lake near by and again, have the skills, you will survive. It is not something you can learn in two weeks while everyone is fighting, dying and dropping all around, you just roll into your life. Some of us even live like this for fun for 2-3 weeks a year or more. IE go to the bush with a tent/heater and gun and fishing rod and a few items to eat. Then catch/hunt your own and get your own water. My wife and i go each year, not this year yet, in the early winter or late winter and have gone in dead of winter for 2 weeks, living in the bush for fun, or call it practice, whatever...lol
 

Sorbate

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I agree with most of what you said. IMO , the only thing i am not in full agreement on is the hunting and survival part.
If things ever got hit with an EMP zap for instance, or whatever may result. 80 % of population would be dead in the first 2 weeks. There would be noone hunting in the bush in the Rockies way up mNorth, well very few folks as it is rugged, hard to get to, and the animals dont lay beside the road and most folks are too lazy to walk survival or not. If there was low fuel they would be stuck in their cities etc.
If you are a well armed prepper person that is semi prepared with great bush and life skills and grew up working, you will have a decent chance to survive.
In Canada we are not utilizing 20 % of our land my friend, we have abundance, but most do not know how to garner our items. If you have good water and good dirt and a home with heat and wild animals in the area and lake near by and again, have the skills, you will survive. It is not something you can learn in two weeks while everyone is fighting, dying and dropping all around, you just roll into your life. Some of us even live like this for fun for 2-3 weeks a year or more. IE go to the bush with a tent/heater and gun and fishing rod and a few items to eat. Then catch/hunt your own and get your own water. My wife and i go each year, not this year yet, in the early winter or late winter and have gone in dead of winter for 2 weeks, living in the bush for fun, or call it practice, whatever...lol
Sorry, I meant the vast majority of us would never be prepared. Most city dwellers would not make it. I would be part of that crowd.
maybe guy like you up north, already in practice, but you are far and few inbetween.
 

Sorbate

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Agreed, modelling has shown, right, wrong or indifferent. 2 weeks, poof, pick any home you want to live in if you made it this far.....lol
I mentioned to my wife that we would just borrow others resources if need be, she said we would be in constant fear of death by someone else, and asked me what kind of living would that be, and would it be worth it?
I don’t know, I’m not the give up type.
 

Heraclitus

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Urban dwellers require different survival strategies. Importantly, a network of armed friends. This interview with a Bosnian survivor paints a picture.
 

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ironwill

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I mentioned to my wife that we would just borrow others resources if need be, she said we would be in constant fear of death by someone else, and asked me what kind of living would that be, and would it be worth it?
I don’t know, I’m not the give up type.
I do not have that give up Gene either....Not so far anyway....lol
Get to the bush up here, and ill hunt and kill and you can butcher and smoke meat.....team work...
We can touch our wives in naughty spots as well....I mean me and my wife, and you and your wife. That sharing thing was not as cool as i imagined in my early daze....Its all fun until the orgasms happen, then the bitch slaps come out and accusations..."You looked like you were loving it...", ME...Yes, yes i did....slap...single again....
Oh, way off topic....lol...
 

Sorbate

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I do not have that give up Gene either....Not so far anyway....lol
Get to the bush up here, and ill hunt and kill and you can butcher and smoke meat.....team work...
We can touch our wives in naughty spots as well....I mean me and my wife, and you and your wife. That sharing thing was not as cool as i imagined in my early daze....Its all fun until the orgasms happen, then the bitch slaps come out and accusations..."You looked like you were loving it...", ME...Yes, yes i did....slap...single again....
Oh, way off topic....lol...
Yeah, I don't know if i could share either. Seems cool, but what if both woman like your better. Now that would have backfired.
I preferred when two woman shared me but didn't know they were because you could get it to last longer. I'm too old to lie that much now, lol
 

Sorbate

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Urban dwellers require different survival strategies. Importantly, a network of armed friends. This interview with a Bosnian survivor paints a picture.
I live in a liberal government town, all my neighbors pretty much work for the government. They don't like to renovate their homes or cut their grass, I'll be king of the neighborhood in 24 hours, lol. But thye will be useless if we need to fight. Mayb cannon foder??
 

Heraclitus

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I live in a liberal government town, all my neighbors pretty much work for the government. They don't like to renovate their homes or cut their grass, I'll be king of the neighborhood in 24 hours, lol. But thye will be useless if we need to fight. Mayb cannon foder??
You'll be fine.
Liberals have no guns so with your knife skills your business will thrive, supplying long pork to who's left.
 

superbeast

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Alberta cases rising very quickly as of todays news, hospitals flooded etc, not good..All bullshit of course, but this is the reports...New years will be locked down there for gyms and bars etc...my prediction.
Yep. I only been paying month to month at my gym for this reason. Expires saturday.
my guess is global lockdowns between christmas and new years.
 

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