Cialis for Pre workout

I have always thought the shorter the ester, the less you aromatizes as well. If you think about it, there is likely only so much aromatase enzyme available at any given moment. So you flood you body with test, but it can only aromatize lets say 5 mg per hour. Well the 50 mg is gone in an hour so the other 45 mg didn’t get converted

Now you are injecting ethnate. You produce 10 mg per hour as the ester cleaves off, your body can convert 5 mg. Now that only leaves you with 5 mg to use. 50% conversion vs what 10%.

Ok my example is not an exact calculation, but it gives you an idea of what I’m saying. Other things would be in play, if you were natural it would likely stop test production to help reduce estrogen conversion if estrogen was too high, but injecting we throw that out of wack.
Now I am just taking common sense and a basic understanding of how our endocrine system works and making an assumtion, simplified maybe but likely not to inaccurate.
Hmmm that is very interesting. I don't care what everybody says about you dude, I think their is a good chance that you are actually pretty smart.
 
Hmmm that is very interesting. I don't care what everybody says about you dude, I think their is a good chance that you are actually pretty smart.
Thanks, but truthfully I think I am becoming dumber over the years. The mind numbing repetitive work I do does not require intelligence.
I need something new to learn, I am getting really bored.
 
Thanks, but truthfully I think I am becoming dumber over the years. The mind numbing repetitive work I do does not require intelligence.
I need something new to learn, I am getting really bored.
Breaking bad...Make a space in the back somewhere near your smoker...Kill 2 birds one stone...Learn more and never bored.....lmao
 
Although a few members here I highly respect their input, and I would go to them for advice in areas that I lack the knowledge; in which there are many!!!

I have to disagree on the non effects of a pre workout enhancement. Be it - oxymetholone, methandrostanolone, a pre workout “supplement” , a green tea extract, a cialis , now I can’t say these necessarily make my workout worse or better in terms of performance. I definitely have to say I have different “feelings” (ie with pre workout supplements - beta alinine, I’m also sensitive to caffeine and only use it once in a while) (also ie, anadrol and dbol, they both have their own feel to me- my muscles feel pumped or worked in a different type of way, I can go longer during a set, my focus and aggression is exactly where it should be, etc) and then there’s shit like cheque drops- that literally made me fuckign wanna crank pantera and squat til I couldn’t anymore. Like that shit was intense man. I haven’t trained legs like that in years. Supersetting with extensions and ham curls. Just fucking brutally demolishing my legs , I was still
Vibrating after the workout- that shit was real. Cialis made me feel a ” tighter “ pump , with I’d say more focus, more able to slow the ROM down and focus on where it’s the weakest- of you have mind to muscle you know what I’m talking about here.

not knocking any of the vets statements on all of these things being rather “useless” to
Take as a pre workout ; I just disagree personally.
 
Something that do wonder for me is 100mg TNE + 15mg injectable SDROL + Insulin + Fast/medium acting carb 45-60 min pre workout.
Might not bet the healthiest but i get the biggest pump in my life from this combo and the pump stay for hours.

On a side note, don't use insulin if you don't know shit about it.
 
that’s funny @bebeav i literally just ordered some injectable sdrol to try it out; I also have some injectable oxy too ; this shit gon be crazy! I may dose an oral adrol later in the day but use the inject for pwo first 4 weeks of next cycle
 
Compare injectable sdrol to injectable adrol; maybe I’ll make a thread about it

edit @bebeav i don’t use insulin and have never before.
 
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Truth. I tried M1T back in the day some guys raves about it; it was meh for me
M1T was toxic as fuck, I’d feel great the first week or two, then my traps would cramp and I’d feel horrible like I was taking poison.
Truthfully the second time I went to use M1T, I was mentioning it to a customer at work who trained and obviously used gear, he told me to stop using that crap and felt sorry for me and that’s how I got my first gear connection. Then I ran dbol instead, bwahaaa.
 
that’s funny @bebeav i literally just ordered some injectable sdrol to try it out; I also have some injectable oxy too ; this shit gon be crazy! I may dose an oral adrol later in the day but use the inject for pwo first 4 weeks of next cycle
TNE and SDROL both together will be more than enough to begin with, i used this kind of combo on my long and heavy workout, maybe 3 time a week toward the end of a cycle to push over some plateau or once in a while for a fullbody workout prior for beach day hahaha
 
One thing I can say is that taking Cialis and Viagra definitely makes me a lot more veiny throughout my whole body. Maybe not smart to use pre work out but can be nice once in a while for a photoshoot or if u wanna look extra pumped up and vascular
 
TNE and SDROL both together will be more than enough to begin with, i used this kind of combo on my long and heavy workout, maybe 3 time a week toward the end of a cycle to push over some plateau or once in a while for a fullbody workout prior for beach day hahaha
Lol I got some from dracorex… let’s test ur theory here muahahahahaha
 
Lol I got some from dracorex… let’s test ur theory here muahahahahaha
Work your up til 100mg test sdrol + 15mg, that was my limit before too much blood pressure building up.
I found that 75mg + 10mg sdrol was a good spot for me.

Dracorex also had some Nandrolone base that worked pretty well for me too. Don't if they still have it but the pump were pretty good when i used it while on a test/deca cycle.
 
Work your up til 100mg test sdrol + 15mg, that was my limit before too much blood pressure building up.
I found that 75mg + 10mg sdrol was a good spot for me.

Dracorex also had some Nandrolone base that worked pretty well for me too. Don't if they still have it but the pump were pretty good when i used it while on a test/deca cycle.
Dude ; for a bulk; if I wanted to run my test 800-1g a week, and Deca 600/wk, first 4 weeks I was thinking of adding NPP at a mL per day as well… you ever kickstart a nandrolone cycle like that ? This is like my next bulk protocol. Just running test and nandrolone ; maybe an oral here and there if I plateau…

edit- TNE and sdrol -as well as probably adrol will be sprinkled throughout this run
 
We still talking pumps here?
Try PGE-1 :)

the glycerol + salt works great too. I’ll vouch for that.
 
Dude ; for a bulk; if I wanted to run my test 800-1g a week, and Deca 600/wk, first 4 weeks I was thinking of adding NPP at a mL per day as well… you ever kickstart a nandrolone cycle like that ? This is like my next bulk protocol. Just running test and nandrolone ; maybe an oral here and there if I plateau…

edit- TNE and sdrol -as well as probably adrol will be sprinkled throughout this run
No, but i ran a mix of different ester of nandrolone, SuperDeca (NPP/Nandro Deca/Nandro Undeca) from Dracorex and it was a good ride.

With 1g of test + 600 Deca, i wouldn't kickstart with NPP, let the hormone build up so you won't have too much side or you could just frontload your Deca if you want, but in this type of cycle, don't be in a hurry, no need for it, it's a long steady game.

Dont' know how long you plan to run this cycle, but if you seem to hit a plateau toward the 16 weeks mark maybe add an oral for the last 4 weeks

We still talking pumps here?
Try PGE-1 :)

the glycerol + salt works great too. I’ll vouch for that.
Yeah with some little distraction here and there hahaha

Could you tell us more detail about PGE-1, first time i see this mentioned.
 
No, but i ran a mix of different ester of nandrolone, SuperDeca (NPP/Nandro Deca/Nandro Undeca) from Dracorex and it was a good ride.

With 1g of test + 600 Deca, i wouldn't kickstart with NPP, let the hormone build up so you won't have too much side or you could just frontload your Deca if you want, but in this type of cycle, don't be in a hurry, no need for it, it's a long steady game.

Dont' know how long you plan to run this cycle, but if you seem to hit a plateau toward the 16 weeks mark maybe add an oral for the last 4 weeks
Yeah you know what I’ll save the NPP ; I got lots of it I’m sure I can just stick to my future test NPP primo cycle. I took out the var, added adrol, took out the masteron, added Deca, upped my test.
 
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