IGF1 DES // IGF1-LR3

CosmicJuiceBoxx

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Anyone here used these? Im curious if the DES truly works for site specific growth with multiple daily injections due to its 30 minute active life.
Or even used LR3, noticed significant or even NOTICABLE muscle growth or are these a gimmick?.
For a fraction of HGH (which boosts your igf1) just to go straight to exogenous sources seems logical to me.
Appreciate any imput, personal expierences or genuine opinions. 🤙💪
 
Don't know too much about the subject frankly but I have heard mention that the legit stuff costs like a ziilion dollars a milligram or something, might be worth investigating?
 
Don't know too much about the subject frankly but I have heard mention that the legit stuff costs like a ziilion dollars a milligram or something, might be worth investigating?
This.

It's been a while since running LR3 but after quite a bit of research, it seems that you will really only benefit from pharma grade which is far more expensive than GH and very tightly controlled. The patent is owned by a company called Tercica (I believe) - chances are if you can't get the script, you'll be getting bunk. Might want to look into PEG MGF. Lots of info on Baskiller's site. Also do a search for Dat B True article archive.
 
@gondar1 @DeezNutz So in your guys opinions, would every site that is selling this just be selling crystallized nothing in vials.
A lot of people say CanadianMedSupplies is a legit site and I see it on there 🤔🤔🤔
 
@gondar1 @DeezNutz So in your guys opinions, would every site that is selling this just be selling crystallized nothing in vials.
A lot of people say CanadianMedSupplies is a legit site and I see it on there 🤔🤔🤔

Sorry man I have no idea, I will say that I too consider CMS to be legit and have never had a single issue with them. I share your same concern regarding this particular product though.

I looked into this stuff a while back and came to the conclusion that it's not for me and I wouldn't be recommending it too anyone. It sounds great on paper but I've never been convinced of it's effectiveness in real life. ie the juice is not worth the squeeze.

Don't take my word for it though as I mentioned I don't know too much about it. Always willing to learn of course but it would need to be a landslide of evidence to turn me at this point. I guess that's a more complete answer to your question than my first post.
 
@gondar1 @DeezNutz So in your guys opinions, would every site that is selling this just be selling crystallized nothing in vials.
A lot of people say CanadianMedSupplies is a legit site and I see it on there 🤔🤔🤔
I've been using cms for over a decade. They've been one of the most reliable peptide suppliers in Canada for years. They do mention that their igf-1 products are 'media grade' (if I remember correctly).
 
I've been using cms for over a decade. They've been one of the most reliable peptide suppliers in Canada for years. They do mention that their igf-1 products are 'media grade' (if I remember correctly).
This may be a noobie ass question but what the heck is Media grade? I know what pharma grade is but is media like an in between of Pharma and Basement Brew?
 
This may be a noobie ass question but what the heck is Media grade? I know what pharma grade is but is media like an in between of Pharma and Basement Brew?
My bad, CMS says their IGF variants are 'receptor grade' not media grade. I honestly couldn't tell you the difference, I can only make assumptions, I'm sure somebody here more scientifically inclined could jump in @Bagua ?

I would email CMS and ask them some pointed questions. They've always been straight with me. To me, the prices don't compute with what I used to pay for it, but this was ages ago and I was using the GenSci Igtropin kits.
 
My bad, CMS says their IGF variants are 'receptor grade' not media grade. I honestly couldn't tell you the difference, I can only make assumptions, I'm sure somebody here more scientifically inclined could jump in @Bagua ?

I would email CMS and ask them some pointed questions. They've always been straight with me. To me, the prices don't compute with what I used to pay for it, but this was ages ago and I was using the GenSci Igtropin kits.
You want sir @gondar1 for this one. He smokes me in this area.
 
You want sir @gondar1 for this one. He smokes me in this area.

I can't recall ever hearing those terms applied to any of the things we commonly discuss here besides the ones in this thread. Makes me wonder if they are terms that were invented for marketing in the wild west world of "research chemicals". Other than that I can only make assumptions which is probably not a good idea.

@Wtf.jstew if you do write to CMS be very careful what wording you use. Remember the position the resellers take is that these types of things are being sold legally only for 'research purposes, not intended for human consumption'. They need to protect themselves so have been know to ignore or rebuff some enquires that put that legal position at risk.

Regarding the whole subject I'd be trying to dig up some legit science/studies and ignore the write ups on sarm selling sites. They tend to stretch the truth and glamorize shit. Even when they provide references they take some big leaps in interpretation.
 
Can't speak to the research but based on hundreds of $$ spent on most types of peptides out there from all sorts of suppliers I can't justify the cost vs good old gear. Now, I am in no way shape or form an elite level BB where minute changes in physique can be detected or is even desired. I just like being jacked and tanned. LOL. I wish I had spent that money on good gear and good food - advice that most lifters could probably adhere to and get to their goals without peptides.

A lot of peptides are pushed by people who have some sort of stake in a research company that's selling them. There's one huge site in particular that pimps out peptides and it just so happens that the people who are most vocal have coupon code for you to use on your next purchase. In terms of the research someone mentioned DatB - a stupidly smart person that'll knows more about this stuff than I ever will - I read his thread from beginning to end, followed all sorts of protocols for IGF, GHRP, DES, Folli, etc and didn't see anything that I couldn't have achieved with my go to test and tren. Once again this is my experience and maybe I just didn't do things correctly or maybe just not at a level that would benefit.

As for CMS - they are one of the few sites that I trust - been doing business with them (or a version of them - those old school members will remember their start way back in the day) for over 15 yrs. What I believe is that the peptides they sell are what they say it is - it's just that there's question on the effectiveness of those peptides even if they are of the highest quality. Hope that makes sense.

As for jacked and tanned - their MT2 is legit - I have reached new levels of browness that made people question my ethnicity LOL
 
All your guys input is highly appreciated! Best feedback on something Ive ever inquired about on a board. Thank you to all of you, fuckin great support here. 🙏💪🤙
May email them, but I believe you may have me going the good gear and good food route.
 
@kibrood Fantastic post sir! Probably not too many of that have not spent a lot of time looking for some exotic approach to reach our goals when 99.91% of the time according to GIMPS (the Gondar Institute of Manufactured Performance Stats) all we need is the basics rather than something that may give us a tiny boost.
 
@kibrood Fantastic post sir! Probably not too many of that have not spent a lot of time looking for some exotic approach to reach our goals when 99.91% of the time according to GIMPS (the Gondar Institute of Manufactured Performance Stats) all we need is the basics rather than something that may give us a tiny boost.
GIMPS is a tried and true industry standard :LOL:
 
I’ve used both from CMS and others. No noticeable results were achieved.
They must of worked, youre a beast! 😉😁

On the real tho, Must say Im a bit let down that some guys have used them and not "felt" or noticed anything from them.
I hoped it would of been a suitable alternative to the HGH route.. shame.
 
They must of worked, youre a beast! 😉😁

On the real tho, Must say Im a bit let down that some guys have used them and not "felt" or noticed anything from them.
I hoped it would of been a suitable alternative to the HGH route.. shame.
Honestly man most peptides and even HGH is underwhelming.

I’m currently on legit Humatrope and although it’s good it’s not the holy grail of getting huge.

The most effective way to get big is basic gear at doses that your body can sustain over long periods of time, extremely consistent heavy training and extremely consistent diet. These things will take way farther than any peptide or HGH will.
 
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