Which steroids raise blood pressure the least as an addon to trt?

kryogen

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My BP is already quite limit, and TRT at 120mg/week doesn't help. I can't really raise the T higher because my blood pressure gets really bad.

Which injectable steroids (avoiding orals, stresses my liver too much....) would be a nice addon to TRT, and increase BP the least?

Primo is too expensive and doesn't really offer a benefit over masteron?
Tren trashes my health completely.
Deca gives me ED.

I was thinking masteron, as it's a dht derivative? I'm on 120mg T so I was thinking just like 125mg a week, so I don't crash my e2 and have joint pain.

Opinion?
 
Morning @kryogen - what do you mean by "My BP is already quite limit"? I assume your saying its high - how high? I would work on getting it down with a few supplements and walks. If you want help, let me know but if you think Primo is too expensive - I doubt you spend much on supplements for organ/health support. I'm not talking about taking a handful of supplements - max 3 but start with 1 for a week and monitor your BP. If it doesn't go down, then add in more. Regardless, long term high BP is not to be ignored.

You said Primo is too expensive but it is the only injectable I have used that has zero negative impact on my blood or BP (only 100-150 mg a week). It isn't that expensive taking 1 ML a week. You can get quality Primo at 100 or 150 mg/ml.

Maybe some of the masteron users will chime in, I have not used it.
 
My BP is already quite limit, and TRT at 120mg/week doesn't help. I can't really raise the T higher because my blood pressure gets really bad.

Which injectable steroids (avoiding orals, stresses my liver too much....) would be a nice addon to TRT, and increase BP the least?

Primo is too expensive and doesn't really offer a benefit over masteron?
Tren trashes my health completely.
Deca gives me ED.

I was thinking masteron, as it's a dht derivative? I'm on 120mg T so I was thinking just like 125mg a week, so I don't crash my e2 and have joint pain.

Opinion?
Have you ever used primo to say it has nothing to offer over masteron is completely wrong IMO unless your body fat is supper low or your useing it for ai benefits primo has lots to offer and as gr said it shouldn’t increase your bp at a low dose and if your just adding it to trt your only gunna run a ml to ml and a half a week that’s not going to break the bank
 
My BP is already quite limit, and TRT at 120mg/week doesn't help. I can't really raise the T higher because my blood pressure gets really bad.

Which injectable steroids (avoiding orals, stresses my liver too much....) would be a nice addon to TRT, and increase BP the least?

Primo is too expensive and doesn't really offer a benefit over masteron?
Tren trashes my health completely.
Deca gives me ED.

I was thinking masteron, as it's a dht derivative? I'm on 120mg T so I was thinking just like 125mg a week, so I don't crash my e2 and have joint pain.

Opinion?

Is your blood pressure going up because of higher estrogen? If so, maybe if you increase your test dose, you might want to add an AI.
 
Bp best I got lately on only trt (120mg brings me to 1000total 30 free) with 500 hcg is like 135/85
Worst I have been on test and tren is like 180/100. That's quite bad. I had to quit tren my bp was sky high and my liver and kidneys were hurting and I was peeing like 4 litres a day always thirsty, something was going very wrong.

Also I was using alot of advil/naproxen and I think it absolutely screws my bp. So I can't take it anymore according to my dr. I think it got it to like 150-160/95.

With just the trt, 500hcg, no NSAIDS, like 140/90 average.... but I think it's still not good.
Not on bp meds at the moment but I need to do the 24 hour test and my dr might put me on bp meds. I'm 37, I think my bp was fine prior to trt like 120/80, but my E was very low.

I ran a bottle of primo last year, like 100mg a week, I think it was good, I just figured masteron would do the same for cheaper. But if primo is better I can afford it.

Still have a bottle of masteron to finish though, I might run it at 120 mg a week until I'm done with it, probably won't hurt much. Didn't test my bp on it though. Lowers E, so will test. Seems to work even at 120mg over trt though it feels like I'm on a higher dose of androgens, stength motivation to lift and libido are up from trt level. I dislike the baseline trt level, it doesn't feel like enough, I really like the higher androgens feeling, I feel like I want to lift and accomplish things in my life it's great. Just on trt it feels blah.

I just bought a bottle of primo with my GH.... will give it another go. Thanks all.
 
Bp best I got lately on only trt (120mg brings me to 1000total 30 free) with 500 hcg is like 135/85
Worst I have been on test and tren is like 180/100. That's quite bad. I had to quit tren my bp was sky high and my liver and kidneys were hurting and I was peeing like 4 litres a day always thirsty, something was going very wrong.

Also I was using alot of advil/naproxen and I think it absolutely screws my bp. So I can't take it anymore according to my dr. I think it got it to like 150-160/95.

With just the trt, 500hcg, no NSAIDS, like 140/90 average.... but I think it's still not good.
Not on bp meds at the moment but I need to do the 24 hour test and my dr might put me on bp meds. I'm 37, I think my bp was fine prior to trt like 120/80, but my E was very low.

I ran a bottle of primo last year, like 100mg a week, I think it was good, I just figured masteron would do the same for cheaper. But if primo is better I can afford it.

Still have a bottle of masteron to finish though, I might run it at 120 mg a week until I'm done with it, probably won't hurt much. Didn't test my bp on it though. Seems to work somewhat though it feels like I'm on a higher dose of androgens, stength motivation to lift and libido are up from trt level.

I just bought a bottle of primo with my GH.... will give it another go. Thanks all.
Just for giggles, how much cardio do you perform on a weekly basis?

My BP was on the higher side on TRT, but after supplementation, regular LISS has helped me drop from 135/85 into the 110/60s and low 120/70s

I'll be another one to vouch for Primo. I have ran both, and I significantly prefer it over Masteron. I currently cruise on 100mg of primo per week+ test, and have blasted with up too 400mg of it per week, and my health markers stay decent.
 
My BP is already quite limit, and TRT at 120mg/week doesn't help. I can't really raise the T higher because my blood pressure gets really bad.

Which injectable steroids (avoiding orals, stresses my liver too much....) would be a nice addon to TRT, and increase BP the least?

Primo is too expensive and doesn't really offer a benefit over masteron?
Tren trashes my health completely.
Deca gives me ED.

I was thinking masteron, as it's a dht derivative? I'm on 120mg T so I was thinking just like 125mg a week, so I don't crash my e2 and have joint pain.

Opinion?
Get you blood pressure down.
the fastest way to destroy your kidneys is high blood pressure and kidneys don’t really recover once they are damaged bad.
I know it will take years, but do you want to be on dialysis at 60?
 
I think any compound that does not cause water retention would be good. My doc says most of the time water retention makes bp go up big time
 
150 primo has given me far better results than 400 mast did. It takes time but patience pays off.
I should get it this friday hopefully, I'll add it to my trt and see.

Would you guys keep the masteron with it anyway or both are going to block estrogen too much on just 120 test ?
 
I'll check my bp tomorrow with the masteron and primo, but I'm getting so much acne this is ridiculous. Nodules on my chest shoulders and back.
Once I have meds for BP and it's good I'll be able to cycle again but high bp is going to kill me.
 
As someone who's battled high BP in the past and apparently is currently crept up again (145/82)
The smart option is to get ur BP sorted out while either off gear totally or on legit trt (1mg/lb bodyweight at most).

Get on an ace inhibitor or an ARB.

I use an ace called ramipril which works very well and has the lowest mortality rate of any BP med. However I may switch to an ARB called Valsartan as it may have muscle building qualities at the same time as being just as effective as the ramipril.

Secondly there's a supplement I swear by called carditone. By a company called ayush. It's only available from the US nowadays for about $60‐70/Btl but it WILL lower ur BP. The longer u take it the more it'll lower until u have to ween off of it so u don't go too low.

Get ur BP under control first. Under 130 and under 85 before upping test or adding anything.

Once u do...I'd keep test at trt range and add primo at 300mg/week to start and increase from there. Anavar may be worth a try to as a 2nd choice. As a third choice I'd choose NPP but I'd lower my test to 0.25‐0.5mg/lb bodyweight. That one may be tricky


If you fuck around now...ull last 6 months on gear and be in the hospital and lose ALL ur gains at minimum. Spend 2 or 3 months taking care of your BP and finding what works...then you can slowly introduce goodies back in and live happily...ever...after.

Ps...it would also be a good idea to do a liver and kidney detox at the same time.

Liver being 3g NAC±1.5g Choline±1.5g inositol+1.5g l‐methionine+ optional tudca for 30 days. Then half that dose for 30 more.

Kidneys ‐mega dose ashwaganda±hawthorne±pycegnol
 
As someone who's battled high BP in the past and apparently is currently crept up again (145/82)
The smart option is to get ur BP sorted out while either off gear totally or on legit trt (1mg/lb bodyweight at most).

Get on an ace inhibitor or an ARB.

I use an ace called ramipril which works very well and has the lowest mortality rate of any BP med. However I may switch to an ARB called Valsartan as it may have muscle building qualities at the same time as being just as effective as the ramipril.

Secondly there's a supplement I swear by called carditone. By a company called ayush. It's only available from the US nowadays for about $60‐70/Btl but it WILL lower ur BP. The longer u take it the more it'll lower until u have to ween off of it so u don't go too low.

Get ur BP under control first. Under 130 and under 85 before upping test or adding anything.

Once u do...I'd keep test at trt range and add primo at 300mg/week to start and increase from there. Anavar may be worth a try to as a 2nd choice. As a third choice I'd choose NPP but I'd lower my test to 0.25‐0.5mg/lb bodyweight. That one may be tricky


If you fuck around now...ull last 6 months on gear and be in the hospital and lose ALL ur gains at minimum. Spend 2 or 3 months taking care of your BP and finding what works...then you can slowly introduce goodies back in and live happily...ever...after.

Ps...it would also be a good idea to do a liver and kidney detox at the same time.

Liver being 3g NAC±1.5g Choline±1.5g inositol+1.5g l‐methionine+ optional tudca for 30 days. Then half that dose for 30 more.

Kidneys ‐mega dose ashwaganda±hawthorne±pycegnol
Getting my 24 hour test next thursday. So hopefully I'll call md next and have an appt.
Right now I'm on legit trt 120mg test, 500 hcg. (I'm only 140 pounds, I have little bones). I'm doing 100 primo but it doesn't seem to screw my bp. It,s the same. Like 140/90 but still bad.

On test and tren it got to like 180/100, my liver and kidneys started hurting, I started to pee like 4 litres per day, unable to stop being thirsty, so I ended my cycle after 2 weeks because I was clearly going to the hospital soon. I made no gains because I felt like shit for a month.

Deca gave me nice gains but I got deca dick on it. Like limp. Maybe I should have lowered test to 50mg or something. I'm not playing with deca now because I get high BP on it too.

So I guess I'll keep it to test + primo or something like that. Might raise the primo once I have my bp under control.
Anavar gave me liver pain in 2 weeks the first time, and 2 days the next time.... my liver is very sensitive so I can't do what some guys do. Sucks because I had really good gains from 20mg a day. (2x10).
 
Ever consider just not running anything? Seems like you're incredibly sensitive to AAS and if you don't absolutely need the gear, why use it?
 
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