Alright CB time for a rant. People that know me know I will go against the grain and call out BS when I see it.
Soooooo
What's been bothering me lately.??? Parrots repeating how they have improved sleep from GH.
I know people are going to argue and hate me over this....but I call bullshit!!!
This has been bothering me for a long time now. So I started talking to some friends who are very knowledgeable and have used alot of Gh over the years. None of them...zero said they had improved sleep. They actually all reported the same as how I feel about it. Worse sleep!
I sleep less. 4 hours is about it especially with PM dosing. I have horrible nightmares. Others just reported wildly vivid dreams. Increased lethargy throughout the day is very common. Improved sleep??? No. Most are saying they can only sleep 4 to 5 hours when running GH and naps are clutch.
I find with boards someone says something, people blindly repeat it and it some how becomes fact. I call these people parrots.
Perhaps some do get improved sleep?? I doubt it though. I can't find any info to back the claim that it improves sleep with healthy athletes. Perhaps those with pituitary issues it will. Fellas I think what we have is a rash of parrots who are possibly experiencing a placebo effect, or just straight out parroting.
Oh ya
And if you feel like reading more there is this.
Subsequent to sleep onset, GH concentrations increase markedly, suggesting a stimulatory influence of sleep on GH secretion. However, results have been inconsistent as to whether GH conversely exerts a significant influence on sleep. Hence, the effects of exogenous administration of GH and of GH secretion stimulated by GH-releasing hormone (GHRH) on sleep were reexamined in 3 experiments in healthy male volunteers. In Exp I, 12 men participated on 3 experimental nights, receiving a constant iv infusion of 5 IU GH (between 2100-0700 h), an im bolus injection of 5 IU GH at 2100 h, and placebo. In Exp II, the effects of a short iv infusion of a high dose of 48 IU GH (between 2345-2315 h) on sleep were evaluated in 3 men. In Exp III, the effects of continuous infusion of 30 micrograms/h GHRH (between 2200-0700 h) on sleep were compared to the placebo condition in 10 men. Experiments were double blind, within-subject, cross-over comparisons and included an adaptation night before experimental nights. On all nights, the subjects went to bed at 2300 h and were awakened at 0700 h. Administration of GH elevated plasma GH and somatomedin-C levels throughout the night (P < 0.005). Neither im administration of 5 IU GH nor iv administration of 5 and 48 IU GH had any effect on the total sleep time or the time spent in different sleep stages during the whole night or in the first and second halves of sleep time. Infusion of GHRH increased nocturnal GH secretion (P < 0.005), but the episodic pattern of GH secretion was maintained. However, sleep remained unchanged during GHRH infusion. From these results we conclude that in healthy man, systemic GH has no physiological role for sleep regulation.
Soooooo
What's been bothering me lately.??? Parrots repeating how they have improved sleep from GH.
I know people are going to argue and hate me over this....but I call bullshit!!!
This has been bothering me for a long time now. So I started talking to some friends who are very knowledgeable and have used alot of Gh over the years. None of them...zero said they had improved sleep. They actually all reported the same as how I feel about it. Worse sleep!
I sleep less. 4 hours is about it especially with PM dosing. I have horrible nightmares. Others just reported wildly vivid dreams. Increased lethargy throughout the day is very common. Improved sleep??? No. Most are saying they can only sleep 4 to 5 hours when running GH and naps are clutch.
I find with boards someone says something, people blindly repeat it and it some how becomes fact. I call these people parrots.
Perhaps some do get improved sleep?? I doubt it though. I can't find any info to back the claim that it improves sleep with healthy athletes. Perhaps those with pituitary issues it will. Fellas I think what we have is a rash of parrots who are possibly experiencing a placebo effect, or just straight out parroting.
Oh ya
And if you feel like reading more there is this.
Subsequent to sleep onset, GH concentrations increase markedly, suggesting a stimulatory influence of sleep on GH secretion. However, results have been inconsistent as to whether GH conversely exerts a significant influence on sleep. Hence, the effects of exogenous administration of GH and of GH secretion stimulated by GH-releasing hormone (GHRH) on sleep were reexamined in 3 experiments in healthy male volunteers. In Exp I, 12 men participated on 3 experimental nights, receiving a constant iv infusion of 5 IU GH (between 2100-0700 h), an im bolus injection of 5 IU GH at 2100 h, and placebo. In Exp II, the effects of a short iv infusion of a high dose of 48 IU GH (between 2345-2315 h) on sleep were evaluated in 3 men. In Exp III, the effects of continuous infusion of 30 micrograms/h GHRH (between 2200-0700 h) on sleep were compared to the placebo condition in 10 men. Experiments were double blind, within-subject, cross-over comparisons and included an adaptation night before experimental nights. On all nights, the subjects went to bed at 2300 h and were awakened at 0700 h. Administration of GH elevated plasma GH and somatomedin-C levels throughout the night (P < 0.005). Neither im administration of 5 IU GH nor iv administration of 5 and 48 IU GH had any effect on the total sleep time or the time spent in different sleep stages during the whole night or in the first and second halves of sleep time. Infusion of GHRH increased nocturnal GH secretion (P < 0.005), but the episodic pattern of GH secretion was maintained. However, sleep remained unchanged during GHRH infusion. From these results we conclude that in healthy man, systemic GH has no physiological role for sleep regulation.