Pros talking about gear

I’m not sure if it’s all genetics, of course a small percentage would just never be a bodybuilder, but I believe it’s more in the want, need, willing to sacrifice everything for it, and be consistant and methodical approach.

I remember way back when, I was natural, I lived ate and slept lifting. I shit at certain times, ate at certain times, sacrificed everything for the goal of getting bigger.
I put in so much mass in 6 months, not one person at work believed I wasn’t running gear.

I used to be the super fast metabolism type, the hard gainer.
But if you apply yourself hard, unless you are so genetically fucked, you could achieve pro level. Just not everyone has that goal or drive.
I hadn’t watched much pro interviews on steroids so after this thread I went looking and I just finished watching a Ronnie Coleman interview where he says that he was taking no more then the average baseball player would have been taking , and he basically said his success was on genetics , But He wanted to get big and he put everything he had into it, and his genetics where fucking wild and matched with gear he became a mutant , but the baseball players didn’t want to gett big they wanted to smash dingers , want and drive will get you fucking far , good genetics and gear will put you in that top percent , but not if you don’t have the want and drive.

ronnies interview is complete opposite of Pete’s. I didn’t watch more then 3 min of Pete’s but here’s ronnies
 
Where the hell do they pin that much oil? Must be a combo of sub q and IM. Big oil tankers walking around. Seriously thou. Id like to see the breakdown of how much oil that would be in a year. Probably add 10 pounds to your frame right there...lol ( yes i know it doesn't work that way..haha)

Another thing I was wondering is how they keep there blood pressure in check. My bp creeps up on a mild cycle like 600 test and maybe one other compound. Im guessing they probably dont keep it in check...
 
Where the hell do they pin that much oil? Must be a combo of sub q and IM. Big oil tankers walking around. Seriously thou. Id like to see the breakdown of how much oil that would be in a year. Probably add 10 pounds to your frame right there...lol ( yes i know it doesn't work that way..haha)

Another thing I was wondering is how they keep there blood pressure in check. My bp creeps up on a mild cycle like 600 test and maybe one other compound. Im guessing they probably dont keep it in check...
Well most of them have personal doctors... so probably prescribed meds for blood pressure and cholesterol etc.... that would help keep them healthy enough for those insane cycles...
Would be something any beginner, intermediate or even advanced user, that is not an competition professional with personal doctors monitoring them, should ever try!!!
I hope no one sees this post and is tempted to do anything stupid !!
It is cool to see how insane these guys are, but like they say "don't try this at home folks" lol
 
Where the hell do they pin that much oil? Must be a combo of sub q and IM. Big oil tankers walking around. Seriously thou. Id like to see the breakdown of how much oil that would be in a year. Probably add 10 pounds to your frame right there...lol ( yes i know it doesn't work that way..haha)

Another thing I was wondering is how they keep there blood pressure in check. My bp creeps up on a mild cycle like 600 test and maybe one other compound. Im guessing they probably dont keep it in check...
They wouldn’t be allowed to travel threw Quebec, 😂
 
I think some of it is bullshit, just trying to look cool. There are guys out there like that.
Very possible..... but there are always guys oit there that push stuff to unnecessary extremes!! Lol
So you never know!!
Like I have a buddy I know that would do 3g of test a week....totally unnecessary... he was way smaller than me, just was an idiot that wanted to do way too much
 
Very possible..... but there are always guys oit there that push stuff to unnecessary extremes!! Lol
So you never know!!
Like I have a buddy I know that would do 3g of test a week....totally unnecessary... he was way smaller than me, just was an idiot that wanted to do way too much
I worked with this crazy guy who told me what he was running.. it was something stupid like 3ml of t400 eod and full barrel of tren eod.. Same thing he was smaller then me and did not look impressive. I actually found him some new gear and he blew up.Pretty sure he was just injecting olive oil before or really underdosed...lol
His 4000mg of test a week was really only like 300mg..lol. or maybe nothing at all. Poor fucker actually broke up with his woman when he did real tren. I even warned him and told him to control himself better or hes gonna lose her.
 
I worked with this crazy guy who told me what he was running.. it was something stupid like 3ml of t400 eod and full barrel of tren eod.. Same thing he was smaller then me and did not look impressive. I actually found him some new gear and he blew up.Pretty sure he was just injecting olive oil before or really underdosed...lol
His 4000mg of test a week was really only like 300mg..lol. or maybe nothing at all. Poor fucker actually broke up with his woman when he did real tren. I even warned him and told him to control himself better or hes gonna lose her.
Haha ya some people are just crazy!!
I much prefer to do as little as possible to get results.
What lots of people don't get is diet is number 1 then training number 2 if you don't have that, gear isn't going to get you to where you want to be!
 
Haha ya some people are just crazy!!
I much prefer to do as little as possible to get results.
What lots of people don't get is diet is number 1 then training number 2 if you don't have that, gear isn't going to get you to where you want to be!
Yes, I find that comes with age, the big cycles are not needed. Especially once you have a solid base. I cant believe how little gear it takes to actually look good. My cycles look like most guys cruises..lol
 
Anyone I knew whom blew up big time with AAS's new there stuff. I think most the pro's that look like they don't know their stuff either are playing us or they are leaving it up to a knowledgeable doctor to dial them in. Look at Lance Armstrong, he had a very knowledgeable team doctor and he knew a lot about steroids, did he play dumb about steroids, yes. Do I play dumb about steroids in front of my friends and acquaintances, of course I do. Don't underestimate the pro's ... they are there for a reason and it's no stupidity about what they are doing. It's their bread and butter. Of course you will get a few outliers.
 
It seems like any pro that i would like to hear talking about gear just doesnt. Its always the guys that are looking to up the ratings on their youtube vids. Plus a lot of pros charge good money for good information
 
I have also heard that some pros massively overstated what they were taking because they were selling gear on the side (to be able to pay for their own gear) so if they ever got busted they would have an excuse for the boatload of gear they were holding.
 
Who all would you say gives actual good info? I like VigorousSteve :)
Hmmm, there's a few but you have to pay.

Jordan Peters & John Meadows both have members sites that contain good enough. I think they give out good info for the most part. You can get a 7 day free trial at TrainedByJP.... I'd start there.

Most top tier coaches also give out good sensible advice too, at least that has been my experience.
 
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